Comments Thread For: When heavyweight prospects fall: For every Mike Tyson there are many more Johnny Fishers

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The heavyweight division, historically, is both the most lucrative and forgiving weight class in boxing. It is where money-making prospects are nurtured for as long as possible and, in turn, it is where faltering stal***** with name value become their dinner of choice
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[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

I don't know that anyone ever considered Fisher a prospect. He seemed to me to just be a fun guy to watch fight and who would win as long as he was very carefully matched. There's room in boxing for guys like that too , and plenty of money for them if they get the hometown fans behind them , especially in the U.K. where people really go all out in support of their hometown heroes.

[robmac]

Of course for every world elite boxer there's a long list of journeymen. Otherwise everyone would be world class level.
Lastly, your jaw has to be as robust and strong as your punch.

[robmac]

I don't know that anyone ever considered Fisher a prospect. He seemed to me to just be a fun guy to watch fight and who would win as long as he was very carefully matched. There's room in boxing for guys like that too , and plenty of money for them if they get the hometown fans behind them , especially in the U.K. where people really go all out in support of their hometown heroes.

Of course fisher was a prospect! If a boxer is knocking out everyone in his path, you have to think this.
ALL "prospects" have matched fights, this includes most wold champions.

Just keeping with fighters that get found out. Dubois! Looked good and had his head chopped off by Joyce. It does not mean he's a journeyman.

Lastly, Moses Itauma...11 fights and 11 knockouts. As a boxing fan you have to think he may be a prospect. You can't wait until a boxer has atleast 25 fights and has got atleast a European title.

[TMLT87]

I think it was always pretty obvious that his ceiling was basically being a fun to watch domestic undercard attraction, but it was still very surprising that hes come unstuck against Dave Allen of all people, an assumed past prime one at that. I think most people, myself included, expected him to steamroll Allen very quickly in their first fight.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Of course fisher was a prospect! If a boxer is knocking out everyone in his path, you have to think this.
ALL "prospects" have matched fights, this includes most wold champions.

Just keeping with fighters that get found out. Dubois! Looked good and had his head chopped off by Joyce. It does not mean he's a journeyman.

Lastly, Moses Itauma...11 fights and 11 knockouts. As a boxing fan you have to think he may be a prospect. You can't wait until a boxer has atleast 25 fights and has got atleast a European title.

Fisher never passed the " eye tests" like Itauma or even Dubois.

[Sparked_26]

Dubois always looks good when he's on top but as soon as he's not he becomes mentally unstuck.

And personally I think he's on the spectrum and that's partially to blame for it not necessarily his toughness or lack thereof.

Since when was Itauma 11 and 11 knockouts,Dovbyschyneko took him the distance and so did the guy who just fought Riakporhe.

Itauma is slightly different to Dubois, Dubois wasn't sparring world champions when he was in his mid teens and apparently hold his own.

Itauma's maturation is similar to Mike Tysons if he's the goods he should've been left off the leash already.

But they're holding him back or he's not willing to take the chances for some reason.

Think that's a little unfair when as usual it will come down to money. It's not gonna be cheap now to get opponents for him with name recognition.

But hype is good.

Hype draws opponents.

[Stuntman Mike]

I don't know that anyone ever considered Fisher a prospect. He seemed to me to just be a fun guy to watch fight and who would win as long as he was very carefully matched. There's room in boxing for guys like that too , and plenty of money for them if they get the hometown fans behind them , especially in the U.K. where people really go all out in support of their hometown heroes.

David Price was a decent looking prospect until he met someone that could take and give half a punch at least in my mind but yeah Fisher lost at the level i figured he would have

[Stuntman Mike]

I think it was always pretty obvious that his ceiling was basically being a fun to watch domestic undercard attraction, but it was still very surprising that hes come unstuck against Dave Allen of all people, an assumed past prime one at that. I think most people, myself included, expected him to steamroll Allen very quickly in their first fight.

Fishers conditioning training is running back and forth to the local chinese restaurant for his old boy and the way back hes carrying nearly his own bodyweight in curry sauce and fried rice

[1Eriugenus]

I think Boro’s comment is worrying & he isn’t the only person on here to say there is something wrong with Dubois. Brutally, using 1970s language, he isn’t the full shilling. Why does that matter? I love watching boxing but people get dead, get blind, get paraplegic for our amusement. Morally, you can’t justify that. You can say, on a utilitarian basis, that if you ban boxing you will just get illegal fights, but that is a weak argument. The strongest argument against banning boxing is that the participants enter into it voluntarily, knowing & understanding the risks. Generally, I think that is why I would not support banning boxing, but I don’t think Dubois does know or understand the risks. His father has told him to be a boxer &, in his child-like state, he has accepted it. I don’t like the Dubois situation, it scares me.