The skill of Deontay Wilder

[SUBZER0ED]

He definitely has boxing fundamentals. You don't make it in the olympics team and get bronze by not knowing boxing. If that is the case, any random person can go in and win medals, but you know that is not possible. He has beaten guys that he is supposed to beat, and he has beaten boxers with good skills like luis ortiz when he was being avoided. He is not as skilled as fury, yet he managed to knock fury down and hurt fury multiple times. AJ avoided wilder when wilder was at his most dangerous and was in his prime. His problem was that he relies on power way too much and neglected what he has learned in boxing because the power came too easy and he was sleeping guys.

^^^^This right here. Wilder did learn something, and it took him from the Olympics to winning a championship belt in the pros. I think his problem is that he started boxing at 20 years old. So, while Jay Deas was able to train him in the fundamental skills of boxing, those skills didn't become second nature like they do with fighters who started at 6 and 10 years old. As a result, Deontay would occasionally revert to his poor form, windmilling style that he was used to before boxing. Also, he likely realized that he had dynamite in his right hand early on and decided that was all he really needed to learn how to throw and land.

[Willow The Wisp]

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The skill of Deontay Wilder

[RingoKid]

What many do not realize is AJ would have slaughtered Wilder easily at any time, ten years ago and today, same result, easy brutal one sided KO win for AJ. So bad that it would be career and leverage ending for Wilder, like Spinks vs. Tyson in 1988. Spinks wanted to comeback after that KO 1 loss to Mike but he had no leverage or value and never fought again. Some losses just totally destroy a fighter's value and leverage.

In my alternate universe : Wilder one shotted an over confident AJ then windmilled him into the shadow realm.

That could easily have happened in this one too.

[Bennyleonard99]

In my alternate universe : Wilder one shotted an over confident AJ then windmilled him into the shadow realm.

That could easily have happened in this one too.

If only Wilder, Haymon and Finkel had half your confidence.

[RingoKid]

If only Wilder, Haymon and Finkel had half your confidence.

If only Hearn did too.

[Coverdale]

I believe he won one of the alphabets. It really doesn't matter to me either way. To me the fact that he fought at the top and gave a good account it's the row of issue

I find my mother to be a good rule of thumb in these situations. She's interested in boxing but never spends any time reading the unhinged outpourings on forums/social media from obsessives like daggum. If you were to ask her what she thought of Wilder's achievements she would probably describe them as 'amazing' and I think that generalises.

[Dorrian_Grey]

He had a decent jab for a while under Breland and he was an excellent judge of distance and had a pretty intuitive feel for timing. Apart from that, it was mostly his athleticism and explosiveness which carried him through his career. That right hand really was something special though.

[Dr Z]

If we compare a snake to a lion as predators isn't it pretty amazing that a snake can hunt using only their head no with no arms or legs?

By the time fighters reach the upper echelons of professional prize fighting they have to have some basic skills if they are to advance. Even pure punchers have to be able to box a little bit or so conventional wisdom tells us. We have seen some one dimensional fighters who rose above the ranks. For example,Marciano, who had a very individualized skill sets given his size and reach.

So even excellent hitters like shavers and Lyle could box and had skills. I could go on and on and search for heavyweights who made it to the top but you know what? None of them were as bad as Wilder!

Wilder truly had no real boxing skills. So how could such a contender reach the status that Wilder achieved? Do I have to spell it out for you?

That's how good Wilders punch is. So good that it allowed him with no real skills to speak of, to fight as a champion. I can't think of a precedent for his success. I think of fighters like Tua, and later versions of razor rud****, who became a one-handed fighter, none of them were as devastating a puncher as Wilder.

So next time somebody is speaking about how bad Wilder was agree with them... And then ask them how a guy with no boxing skills, basically one hand, and no size could become a heavyweight champion. Because sometimes the logic is there all along if people are willing to look.

His business manager was excellent as he capitalized on the USA market which was at an all time low tide and was fed very weak competition. When he finally fought top international competition he was exposed.

His punch looked great as he fought no -hoopers and non tough journeymen. He has / hand good hand speed . The right " hook " was his best punch.


He was a really weak jaw, jawed pipe legged fighter who was say the 3rd or 4th best in the world at his peak. He might have been in fixed fights.

If the hall of fame has ANY standards, he never gets in.

[Marchegiano]

Resume doesn't matter. Just look how impressive wikder was agaisnt all those bums. Imagine what he does to everyone else!

No it's not that resume doesn't matter it's that resume is consistent for most of the fighters including those ranked by ring. So your distinctions are garbage.

Nah, resume does not matter when the question is how much power.



How fast Usain ran is not answered by the racers he beat. Dumbass

The final score of whatever soccer's super bowl is, is not answered by who they beat is it dumbass?

Who has the most 3 pointers in basketball is not answered by who they scored on is it dumbass?



But the dumbass boxing fan believes they can answer physics with resume

[Bennyleonard99]

If only Hearn did too.

Hearn did everything he could until he realized Haymon FInkel were just faking it. You got fooled by the Haymon Finkel Wilder fraudsters who ducked their way out of $100m payday vs AJ. Today team Wilder still have no desire to try to fight AJ because they know it's a guaranteed KO loss.