The skill of Deontay Wilder

[billeau2]

Thats how bad his comp was. He has a 25 percent ko ratio agaisnt ring ranked fighters aka good opponents. That is historically weak.


Political connections and soft matchmaking.

My auto mechanic belongs to the American association of Car engineers, therefore I rate him as excellent. The fact that he put the brakes on backwards, the muffler on the wrong side of the exhaust... Well ya know these things happen! I comfort myself knowing his prestigious ranking!

As a fundamental concept the qualities of Ring Ranked Fighters are such that with/without such a ranking fighters tend to perform the same way. They are in fact, no better, or worse than those fighters Ring does not rank.

Everything in boxing is political and a cherry pick. Fighters are looking to move on up and little else. Promoters do not want losses. Wilder is not more or less a victim of this weak era than other fighters are.

[Coverdale]

Why are you referring to him as a champion? He was never lineal.

[daggum]

Boxing fans do not give a **** about physics.

Boxing fans answer physics with resume

Boxing fans dumb as ****

Resume doesn't matter. Just look how impressive wikder was agaisnt all those bums. Imagine what he does to everyone else!

[billeau2]

Why are you referring to him as a champion? He was never lineal.

I believe he won one of the alphabets. It really doesn't matter to me either way. To me the fact that he fought at the top and gave a good account it's the row of issue

[billeau2]

Resume doesn't matter. Just look how impressive wikder was agaisnt all those bums. Imagine what he does to everyone else!

No it's not that resume doesn't matter it's that resume is consistent for most of the fighters including those ranked by ring. So your distinctions are garbage.

[billeau2]

Wilder is and was so bad, I wouldn't put it past his manager to have bought the bronze medal. He's never looked remotely like a top ten or 20 fighter, even against PBC employees Stiverne, Ortiz and all those divers. He looked exactly like a scripted phony who landed the right hand on a guy who got a bonus to eat it. Sorry, after seeing true greats like Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Louis, Holmes in real action, Wilder looked like a six rounder in comparison. The worst fighter on earth can be made to look okay if he has the two most powerful and corrupt managers running his career. Haymon and Finkel engineered an awful scam. The smoking guns are ducking Povetkin, Whyte, AJ and the Zhang fight lol.

You are nothing more than a small-minded man with an agenda.

[daggum]

I believe he won one of the alphabets. It really doesn't matter to me either way. To me the fact that he fought at the top and gave a good account it's the row of issue

Washington, spilzka, molina, areola, stiverne, duhapas were not the top though. None of those guys are even close to top 10 in wilders era. Probsvly not top 20.

you think having a belt means something? you are wrong. There's a guy names artur grigorian you would love. He had about 15 defenses, more than wilder but he beat no one similar to wilder. He stepped up to acelino Freitas and got dominated just like wilder. There is no differerence.


If wilder had feasted on weak competition then retired you could have plausible denialibity with your he would have beaten the top guys argument except he fought some of the better guys and lost so it doesn't hold any water. He was old by then doesn't either because he wasn't that old in hw terms and it was his choice to fight soft opponents in his "prime"

[daggum]

No it's not that resume doesn't matter it's that resume is consistent for most of the fighters including those ranked by ring. So your distinctions are garbage.

Wilders resume is not on par with other fighters. Sorry it's not. Guys like Whyte Ruiz jr Parker Joyce Zhang Dubois are far ahead of wilder. Obviously Joshua Fury and usyk are light years ahead but even the second tier guys are above wilder. That's what happens when you fight areola, spilzka, Washington, duhapas etc...

[billeau2]

Washington, spilzka, molina, areola, stiverne, duhapas were not the top though. None of those guys are even close to top 10 in wilders era. Probsvly not top 20.

you think having a belt means something? you are wrong. There's a guy names artur grigorian you would love. He had about 15 defenses, more than wilder but he beat no one similar to wilder. He stepped up to acelino Freitas and got dominated just like wilder. There is no differerence.


If wilder had feasted on weak competition then retired you could have plausible denialibity with your he would have beaten the top guys argument except he fought some of the better guys and lost so it doesn't hold any water. He was old by then doesn't either because he wasn't that old in hw terms and it was his choice to fight soft opponents in his "prime"

Fury equals the top.

[billeau2]

Wilders resume is not on par with other fighters. Sorry it's not. Guys like Whyte Ruiz jr Parker Joyce Zhang Dubois are far ahead of wilder. Obviously Joshua Fury and usyk are light years ahead but even the second tier guys are above wilder. That's what happens when you fight areola, spilzka, Washington, duhapas etc...

Prove it without relying upon relative rankings. Here's a hint you can't because they all fought from the same pool. And as much as you come here and try to push your crap I'm going to be right here making the point it's just that c r a p.

It's like me building a fortress on a sand dune that's what your proof is like. The real proof is how Wilder did with a common opponent and his assent to fighting a challenging three series fight with Fury.