Inoue or wilder? Bigger puncher?

[daggum]

Yes it did... He almost beat Fury. Remember?

You mean Fury who was knocked down vs Cunningham, petjkic, usyk and ngannou? Are they all huge punchers too? Wow what an era to live through

[daggum]

Your poll is skewed, daggum. The title asks who was the bigger puncher, but the criteria for the vote is vs top 10 opponents. Everyone knows that Wilder's skill set was inferior to Inuoe's, which is why he was carefully matched for years. However, Deontay's punching power cannot be denied. If he landed that right hand, it was nite nite 9.9 times out of 10.

You are so close to seeing the right answer but all those bum fights truly made an impression on you

[daggum]

There's so many gray areas in this loaded question. I wouldnt know how to answer. P4P inoue. However if you offered me money. I rather take a punch from Inoue with gloves on then the Windmill Deontay wilder. Deontay only knows how to throw haymakers. From a career standpoint up to the 3rd Tyson Fury fight it is proven if Deontay CAN land that haymaker you are going to get dropped badly.

Tyson Fury was able to absorb those haymakers because he outweighed Deontay by 60lbs atleast. I can take inoues best punch at 200lbs (roughly what i weigh) But I am not taking Deontay haymaker if the money is the same.

P4P - Inoue.

Overall if he actually lands - Deontay pre Fury.

How many good fighters did wilder ko before Fury though? Ortiz who was 40? Seems strange his power was very diminished agaisnt all the good fighters he fought. Sure knocking down Fury is nice but it's been done many times. No one would say usyk is the biggest puncher ever, maybe if he fought 40 bums they would...maybe people are catching on to the scam now

[daggum]

Nash was in attendance (they needed someone from the Boxingscene Hall of Fame as witness) when Wilder counted out every dollar in front of Joshua and Earn with Hearn.Nash out - His Majesty

You were in attendance in their dms? Wow I think that's called hacking. You are under arrest

[daggum]

You can settle this for yourself daggum.

Let them both get a free punch in your face.

Wilder should go first because he is older. If you wake up , then let Inoue go.

Them you tell all of us.

Wilder barely hurt tiny Charlie zeleonoff with a full force blow. I would eat it up and ko him. Innoue is a real boxer and would floor me

[daggum]

While Inoue is the real deal I think Wilder is vastly overrated and a hype job. If his power was so terrifying, Haymon would have had the confidence to put him in with AJ Usyk and Whyte, and not just a blubberhouse fading circus clown (Fury). You see, Wilder was built on PBC set ups and then after the phony record was established, they targeted the clearly in decline Fury. Fury never was as good as he was after beating Klitschko. Wilder's power wasn't evident vs Fury, Zhang, he only really beat PBC set ups. Wilder may be the most overrated overhyped heavyweight contender in history. And we all know Al Haymon had the logistics and unethical tendencies to fabricate Deontay Wilder. To fill the void of there being no good American heavyweights.

Wow congr-ats on an accurate post.

[billeau2]

It is different. Being a top fighter is a self selecting system. The guys who can't take a punch usually don't make it to the top. Those that can do. That's why it's much harder to knock out ranked fighters. They don't go down so easily as wilder found out yet you still have people on here judging him based on what he did vs the crappy fighters he fought.

And what does any subjective ranking system have to do with this? Your not judging him by what he did... Ortiz had never been KO'ed, or, even lost a match when he faced Wilder... And those are facts, not opinions of a ranking organization. Fury went tooth and nail with Wilder in order to not be brained and still got caught and almost lost the first fight. The same Fury that gave Alexander U his toughest fight.... According to Usyk! Not any secondary source...

See how your card towers come down with the slightest wind? Then you will try to make some argument that Joshusa fought better secondary fighters in a weak division... But Joshua lost his bid to be at the top... So it really is academic if one believes Jennings is better than breazeal, oh wait! Didn't Joshua and Wilder both fight Breazeal? with Wilder being a lot more dominant? Do I need to keep going?

Your problem is you do not know how to truly compare things. You work backwards: You don't like Wilder so you try to construct an argument that minimizes his talents. You constantly fail to realize that this is a weak era! Every heavyweight is fighting the same quality of opposition. YES, Tito would not have been undefeated in many eras, ut the same conditions apply equally to virtually any present heavyweight perhaps with the exception of Usyk... the jury is still out on that one.

Ring rankings, alphabet soup rankings do not consider the objective abilities of fighters when assigning rank: The ranks are issued relative to present conditions, Alphabet soup gives people championship belts who are often not even legit contenders... Grow up!

[billeau2]

For those that think Wilder is a "bum?" Exceptional punchers are expected to breeze through their competition and be able to eventually threaten an exceptional opponent whom is either, a fellow slugger, or, an exceptional artful boxer. Wilder presented a challenge to Fury, an exceptional boxer, a fighter that shut down Vlad Klitsko... Wilder accomplished this. He almost beat Fury and was competative.

Joshua was not competative against Usyk, Usyk has said as much. Usyk respects Fury for one reason alone, Fury gave him a really hard time.

[daggum]

And what does any subjective ranking system have to do with this? Your not judging him by what he did... Ortiz had never been KO'ed, or, even lost a match when he faced Wilder... And those are facts, not opinions of a ranking organization. Fury went tooth and nail with Wilder in order to not be brained and still got caught and almost lost the first fight. The same Fury that gave Alexander U his toughest fight.... According to Usyk! Not any secondary source...

See how your card towers come down with the slightest wind? Then you will try to make some argument that Joshusa fought better secondary fighters in a weak division... But Joshua lost his bid to be at the top... So it really is academic if one believes Jennings is better than breazeal, oh wait! Didn't Joshua and Wilder both fight Breazeal? with Wilder being a lot more dominant? Do I need to keep going?

Your problem is you do not know how to truly compare things. You work backwards: You don't like Wilder so you try to construct an argument that minimizes his talents. You constantly fail to realize that this is a weak era! Every heavyweight is fighting the same quality of opposition. YES, Tito would not have been undefeated in many eras, ut the same conditions apply equally to virtually any present heavyweight perhaps with the exception of Usyk... the jury is still out on that one.

Ring rankings, alphabet soup rankings do not consider the objective abilities of fighters when assigning rank: The ranks are issued relative to present conditions, Alphabet soup gives people championship belts who are often not even legit contenders... Grow up!

Ortiz was a good solid ko win no doubt but you aren't a huge puncher by koing one good fighter. Too small a sample size. Wilder tried to expand his sample size against good fighters and no more kos.

And ortiz was nearly kod by Ruiz Jr and Charles Martin so his chin is not great. His lack of fighting stiff competition is why he had never been kod. You see how this all connects? You can pretend wilder beat good fighters but he didn't. Guys like Washington, spilzka, duhapas, etc...if you want to claim they are good you will be laughed at

[ELPacman]

Question should be, P4P, whose a bigger puncher, but taking this question at face value, well of course Wilder. The dude puts men weighing 250+ lbs to sleep. No way in hell Inoue is accomplishing that. I don't even think if he had loaded gloves he would.