I really hope the Pacquiao-Barrios fight doesn’t happen.

[IronDanHamza]

Of course it's an admission of guilt. You're just giving him unreasonable benefit of the doubt because of his accomplishments. Nothing else needs to be said, you're just in denial.

No it really isn’t an admission of guilt at all.

You are unreasonably claiming he’s a drug cheat. When as far anyone knows, he objectively is not that.

If Manny Pacquaio is a drug cheat. Which drug?

[Smash]

Delusional nonsense. He turned down the biggest payday and biggest legacy fight of his life because he didn't want drug testing. There's only one reason for that and you know it. You can play dumb all you want.

ive forgotten a lot of that stuff but didnt pac agree to drug testing he just said he didnt like blood drawn close to a fight so wanted a cutoff date for blood taken, 10 days or something before fight with as much urine tests as they like and blood test right after the fight, floyd had agreed to it at one point but then changed his mind, so there was 2 of them at it i remember, then floyd went on his hols

remember the context of all of this too, this was i think the first boxing match that such demands were made of a fighter, it wasnt standard stuff at that point, the deal they had to fight was very reasonable i thought

[famicommander]

No I don’t know and objectively nobody does. It’s suspiscous behaviour, sure. But it’s not admission of guilt and it certainly is not proof of guilt, at all.

If Manny Pacquaio is a drug cheat, what drug?

Of course it's an admission of guilt. You're just giving him unreasonable benefit of the doubt because of his accomplishments. Nothing else needs to be said, you're just in denial.

[IronDanHamza]

There is no other reason to duck the biggest payday and legacy fight of your career over drug testing other than that you will fail that drug test. You can say whatever you want but you know, 100%, that statement is absolutely true. Be pretentious, act like there is some kind of plausible alternative explanation. But deep down, you know.

No I don’t know and objectively nobody does. It’s suspiscous behaviour, sure. But it’s not admission of guilt and it certainly is not proof of guilt, at all.

If Manny Pacquaio is a drug cheat, what drug?

[famicommander]

Delusional nonsense Get a clue you emotional fool.

There isn’t only one reason. There is potentially many reasons.

Either way, labelling the guy a “drug cheat” is incorrect, he is not that. Not that we know of atleast.

If so, what drug?

There is no other reason to duck the biggest payday and legacy fight of your career over drug testing other than that you will fail that drug test. You can say whatever you want but you know, 100%, that statement is absolutely true. Be pretentious, act like there is some kind of plausible alternative explanation. But deep down, you know.

[shenmue]

Hope I get some good odds on barrios, yeah he isn't great but he doesn't have to be vs a 46 year old.

[IronDanHamza]

Delusional nonsense. He turned down the biggest payday and biggest legacy fight of his life because he didn't want drug testing. There's only one reason for that and you know it. You can play dumb all you want.

Delusional nonsense Get a clue you emotional fool.

There isn’t only one reason. There is potentially many reasons.

Either way, labelling the guy a “drug cheat” is incorrect, he is not that. Not that we know of atleast.

If so, what drug?

[gauze]

pacquiao should fight boots

[famicommander]

I thought you said you were gay?

It’s not “end of” though, is it? Not doing a drug test doesn’t mean you are using drugs or it’s not evidence someone is using drugs. There could be a plethora of reasons why he didn’t want to do the random drug testing protocol at the time. That isn’t evidence that he used PEDs nor is it an admission of guilt.

He’s never once said he’s afraid of needles, so that was a lie.

He’s never failed a drug test, that’s all we know. We don’t know anything else. Calling him a “drug cheat” is disingenuous .

Delusional nonsense. He turned down the biggest payday and biggest legacy fight of his life because he didn't want drug testing. There's only one reason for that and you know it. You can play dumb all you want.

[Gary Coleman]

He was an open sycophant of Duterte for years.

The same Duterte that has been arrested by the International Criminal Court for thousands of extrajudicial executions.

Manny Pacquiao was a collaborator and close friend of a mass murderer. That is an undeniable fact of his legacy. And people here are afraid to see him get punched? He should be in a cell next to Duterte for the rest of his life. He only began to criticize the man when his own political ambitions ran contrary to his.

All politicans aren't bad people, but you're absolutely right here.