Was Ryan Garcia robbed a win ?

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  • WillieWild114
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    Was Ryan Garcia robbed a win ?

    https://www.boxingscene.com/articles...12-ryan-garcia these punch stats show he out punched Romero 7/12 rounds why wasn’t he awarded the Win ?
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    #2
    dont ever put ryan in a main event again. all that talk leading up the fight and then fought scared. i dont think ryan threw any power shots in fear of getting countered.

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    • Smash
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      #3
      the punch stats say they were both awful

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      • ELPacman
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        #4
        Did he win? If you want to say both guys didn't throw enough, give it to the man who knocked the other man down and call it a day. Rollie actually fought like he wanted it just a tad bit more. Ryan was in there to survive. Nor did he look in anyway like his prior form. (ahem).

        Ryan is proving more and more how much of a farce he's always been. He honestly thought he could come in overweight vs Haney + use PEDs and either nobody would talk about it or immediately sweep it under the rug. Meanwhile collecting a "W" against a "legit" opponent.

        Since it didn't happen, he got called out on it and had to turn up clean as *** for this fight, he may of doubted himself. He no longer had a size advantage or strength advantage as he did against Haney and it probably played with him a bit that he's facing an equal level opponent that has legit power. Then being dropped solidified his fears and made him hesistant to engage thereafter.

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        • Mammoth
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          #5
          Nope..........

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          • DeeMoney
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            #6
            Remember, compubox is just a couple guys clicking a button to when they think a punch landed, and in no way does it indicate the accuracy or force of the punch itself. Its not amateurs where its just a point per punch landed.

            That being written, lets actually look at the punchstats. In only two separate rounds, 5 and 7 respectively, did Garcia out land in power punches. If we look at total punches landed, there were four separate rounds (1, 5, 7, and 8) in which he had more than a single total landed advantage. Romero also had four rounds (2, 6, 11, and 12) in which he had more than a single punch advantage in total lands.

            That leaves rounds 3, 4, 9, and 10 as being roughly even with the punchstats. In both 3 & 4 each fighter the same amount of power shots, and in each Garcia landed one more jab- so we give him those two. In each of rounds 9 and 10 Romero landed one more power shot, which in lieu of one fighter landing a preponderance of more punches seems to be fair, so we give him those.

            Mix in the KD, and this lands it at 114-113 for Romero.

            Like I wrote earlier, its not amateurs, so just landing the most touches doesnt win it for you. You need to cause some sort of damage. This can be done by landing a preponderance of shots, which compubox points to neither fighter doing, or you can land the better shots- which compubox cant show, but I think most agree that Rolly did.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #7
              - - Nobody care. Great natural talent with 2cents for brains.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #8
                You know it’s bad when the Compubox defense is used. Lol

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                • WillieWild114
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                  Originally posted by DeeMoney
                  Remember, compubox is just a couple guys clicking a button to when they think a punch landed, and in no way does it indicate the accuracy or force of the punch itself. Its not amateurs where its just a point per punch landed.

                  That being written, lets actually look at the punchstats. In only two separate rounds, 5 and 7 respectively, did Garcia out land in power punches. If we look at total punches landed, there were four separate rounds (1, 5, 7, and 8) in which he had more than a single total landed advantage. Romero also had four rounds (2, 6, 11, and 12) in which he had more than a single punch advantage in total lands.

                  That leaves rounds 3, 4, 9, and 10 as being roughly even with the punchstats. In both 3 & 4 each fighter the same amount of power shots, and in each Garcia landed one more jab- so we give him those two. In each of rounds 9 and 10 Romero landed one more power shot, which in lieu of one fighter landing a preponderance of more punches seems to be fair, so we give him those.

                  Mix in the KD, and this lands it at 114-113 for Romero.

                  Like I wrote earlier, its not amateurs, so just landing the most touches doesnt win it for you. You need to cause some sort of damage. This can be done by landing a preponderance of shots, which compubox points to neither fighter doing, or you can land the better shots- which compubox cant show, but I think most agree that Rolly did.
                  If that’s the case Wilder vs Fury 1 was actually a draw ?

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                  • billeau2
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                    #10
                    Ryan did use the jab nicely. But I do not think he won.

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