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The Cuban style, when it’s bad, is the worst in all of boxing

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  • #51
    Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post
    I actually enjoy Rigo, Lara, and Rances Barthelemy. Scull could had won if he let his hands go. What he and Devin did was a shame but it is also your opponent job to make you work in that ring and if you are a flat footed fighter that doesn't want to cut off the ring then your at fault too when it comes to a boring fight.

    I think some of those cuban boxers need to find a professional non-cuban trainer when they come to the pros. Olympic boxing is a sport first while Pro Boxing is entertainment first. Theirs fighters that get tones of opportunities to win a belt or judges look the other way because they are a marketable fighter that delivers action. Gatti and Mancini are remembered more for their entertainment than their skills in the ring. You can stay Mancini's entertained us so much it ended his career and took a person's life.
    Barthelemy. Another one who had some awful fights.

    Remember Richar Abril?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by garfios View Post

      Andy Cruz and Robeisy Ramirez, you can add to those names, Iglesias, Gomez, Herrera, Bryan Gonzalez, David Morrell, Leon (he fought the mexican in the undercard bout of canelo vs scull) and a few more I can't recall now, one thin in common, they all defected young, from 17 to 18 yo.
      Cuban David is classic

      he called Mexican David RoboCop fighting style

      team Benavidez laughed along with it because it’s true

      a very upright fighter

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

        They do.

        That's why they OUTLAND their opponents.
        I think you mean OUTRUN but yeah Das boxing

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

          Barthelemy. Another one who had some awful fights.

          Remember Richar Abril?
          Yes. I remember his fight with Hank Lundy way back.
          garfios garfios likes this.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

            Barthelemy. Another one who had some awful fights.

            Remember Richar Abril?
            Abril would land his share, he wasn't a runner and would stay in front of you, he was robbed against Rios blindly. They have score card filled before the fight.

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            • #56
              It’s better suited for amateur boxing where they only score the punches that are landed.

              Had the Canelo/Scull bout been an amateur bout; Then Scull won have won that bout hands down.

              It’s because he threw and landed more punches than Saul Alvarez.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                It’s better suited for amateur boxing where they only score the punches that are landed.

                Had the Canelo/Scull bout been an amateur bout; Then Scull won have won that bout hands down.

                It’s because he threw and landed more punches than Saul Alvarez.
                Scull didn’t land more punches according to CompuBox.

                And it was a historically bad, stinker of a fight weekend too if you include the Friday bouts.



                “By throwing a combined 445 punches over 12 rounds, Canelo (152 punches) and Scull (293 punches) set a new record for fewest

                punches thrown in a 12 round fight tracked by CompuBox’s 40-year history. The previous record was 459 (Parker vs. Wilder). On

                Friday night in Times Square, Ryan Garcia and Rolly Romero combined to throw 490 punches over 12 rounds, now the fourth fewest;

                and Devin Haney and Jose Ramirez combined to throw 503 punches over 12 rounds, now the sixth fewest.

                Canelo landed a fight-high 10 punches in the twelfth round. Otherwise, neither fighter landed more than 7 punches in any other round.

                They both averaged 5 punches landed per round. 40 of Canelo’s 48 power punch connects (83%) were body shots. One judge

                scored the fight 115-113, the second judge scored it 116-112, and the third judge scored it 119-109, all for Canelo.”


                https://beta.compuboxdata.com/round-stats/15299

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                • #58
                  When I was younger, I used to be like "oh, it's technical, you guys just don't get it"
                  As I got older, I appreciate technical boxers, but I definitely favor aggression more than I did as a late teen or in my early 20's.

                  Guys like Inoue, Crawford, Boots, Bivol, Lomachenko. Guys who can box but try to press the action.

                  Another thing is, you have the chance to change your life, your family's life and get generational wealth if you win. Instead of giving it your all you just are happy to survive to a decision, fight in spurts, where you can just claim you were robbed. If you're in a big time fight and don't even try to win I never want to see you again.


                  Also I would like to point out to most posters that boxers that fight like that do so on purpose. They will intentionally avoid action, dance around, fight in spurts in hopes of playing spoiler and getting lucky with a decision. My mind was changed once I found out they intentionally do this.

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                  • #59
                    There is being technical and there is running around without throwing punches. Two different things.

                    I’d like to see them make 18’ x 18’ rings be the standard size in order to limit the runners. This is supposed to be a fight not a track meet, if you have good defensive skills then show it in the pocket.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Teetotaler23 View Post

                      I think you mean OUTRUN but yeah Das boxing
                      They hit their opponents more than their opponents hit them.

                      Check Compubox.

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