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  • #21
    He did catch Cameron, but there were signs Whittaker was tiring again.

    He started getting caught by a lot of jabs, took a few deep breaths. Right hands were landing.

    Yeah, he caught Liam with a huge shot, but Cameron didn't go down and was very live. If the ref let him weather the storm, the fight was very much alive.

    Ridiculous the fight was stopped and also ridiculous that there will probably be no investigation into the stoppage.

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    • #22
      It was interesting how quickly sky comms seemed to accept the stoppage after Macklin initially questioned it.

      Matt Macklin (on comms) and Andy Lee (Whittaker's trainer) would likely have been stopped another few times in their career if the action was interpreted like last night.

      I don't want to see people hurt and I hate to see people take that free shot that puts people unconscious like some folks do but that didn't look like it was going to happen when stopped.

      I get that at some point you have to throw punch but Cameron is significant slower. He actually would get caught on the chin in an exchange in that instance.

      His defence is just that Artur Abraham like high guard.

      Cameron was still thinking in there.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by jereme12 View Post
        Fury got 8 count in the same situation against Usyk. Refs are ruining the fights by applying rules inconsistently.
        That decision also proved to be controversial with many saying it robbed Usyk of a knockout.



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        • #24
          It looked like a awful stoppage. But I saw Liam clapping at the end, so I'm ok with it

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          • #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            It looked like a awful stoppage. But I saw Liam clapping at the end, so I'm ok with it
            He's just a pretty chill guy who has been through a lot of stuff.

            People like that gain perspective in an instant.

            Ben could still learn from a man like Liam.

            He won and still somehow came across as a baby.

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            • #26
              When I saw Howard foster as the referee I just knew he is going to.stop.it the first chance he gets

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              • #27
                Solid performance technically, but? I don't really think Ben Whittaker should have been celebrating like the way he did 'It was a domestic level fight, one that he should have won in rather easy fashion first time around'.

                Ben Whittaker's first performance vs Liam Cameron I, may well have been down to 'The way he was training at the time tactically i.e. what type of exercises and training sessions he was choosing to focus on. Sometimes fighters lose fights, or underperform not due to lack of effort but? Because tactically they have structured their training camps sub-optimally. This is what I believe influenced Ben Whittaker's first performance vs Liam Cameron I'.

                Note: Skill for skill I think it was a good performance 'I particularly liked the body punching, when he had Cameron hurt. And was attacking to force the stoppage'.

                I would predict that Ben Whittaker is not going to campaign at 175 pounds for the entirety of his career 'I would not be surprised if he weight drains himself extensively to make the 175 pound weight limit. Maybe this was also a factor that had a affect on his first performance vs Cameron I. Whittaker's endurance, and punching power looked worse than ever during Cameron vs Whittaker I'.

                So yes, the trajectory of Ben Whittaker's career could go a very similar way to Tony Bellew's 'Competing at 175 pounds, until the negative accumulative affect of weight draining himself surfaces, and then he begins to regress as a fighter'.

                Potentially Whittaker's peak years could be as a Cruiserweight fighter, but unlike Tony Bellew? Ben Whittaker will have to heavily rely on his boxing skills in order to become a top level fighter. As I don't think Whittaker has a great level of punching power, he is similar to Chris Eubank Junior in that regards. But Eubank Junior seemed to have other attributes such as durability and endurance to a very high level, which negated his lack of punching power'.

                To conclude: Overall this is the first time I have really paid much attention to Ben Whittaker 'This entire saga with him and Liam Cameron I & II. There have been comparisons made of him to Prince Naseem Hamed, which I think are miles off. Prince Naseem Hamed as a domestic level fighter, was on a completely different level to Ben Whittaker'.

                It is apparent that Ben Whittaker has some ability, and is not your average joe fighter 'But we can already see attributes where he is lacking big time, punching power, potentially endurance and durability. I think it may be a race against time for Whittaker to achieve world level feats at 175 pounds, before he begins to struggle to make the weight limit. Regardless, he still produced a good performance while under serious pressure, I am sure his experience as a top level amateur fighter prepared him for this rematch' etc.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-21-2025, 06:59 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post

                  He's just a pretty chill guy who has been through a lot of stuff.

                  People like that gain perspective in an instant.

                  Ben could still learn from a man like Liam.

                  He won and still somehow came across as a baby.
                  Liam can fight another day now. But he got caught with a good punch. We didn't get to see if Liam could recover fast? I thought he might shake it off.
                  But again he was clapping. Sure we'd like fight to last longer to see what would happen but overall in big scheme of things it was ok.

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                  • #29
                    The annoying thing is that he probably was on his way to being stopped, but waving it off that early? We'll never know.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by M312 View Post
                      He did catch Cameron, but there were signs Whittaker was tiring again.

                      He started getting caught by a lot of jabs, took a few deep breaths. Right hands were landing.

                      Yeah, he caught Liam with a huge shot, but Cameron didn't go down and was very live. If the ref let him weather the storm, the fight was very much alive.

                      Ridiculous the fight was stopped and also ridiculous that there will probably be no investigation into the stoppage.
                      The journeyman was hurt, then lots of unanswered punches, if the rope was not there he would have gone down, at best ref might have gave a standing count but Cameron didn't care himself that it was stopped. He knew he's a journeyman he was hyped up with most of you claiming he schooled Whittaker just because he had a good 5th round first fight lmao

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