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  • #11
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
    I personally would still prefer him to make some offers to Barrios and Norman. He's established himself as THE man to beat at 147. Make them go on record trying to be the best or be the ducks. He's got momentum now, and if they want to build him into a bonafide star, they need to invest in making the fights, rather than letting him languish at either 154 or 147 taking more meaningless fights. He's got a signature win, finally, to start his career.

    Ortiz has his own business to handle at 154. He's next up for the winner of Fundora v Zayas, and that nets him two belts. Then either Murtazaliev or Tellez after he gets email elevated when Crawford retires after the Canelo fight can come looking for the smoke.

    If Ennis really wants all the smoke, he should be going for Norman and trying to get the WBO belt, then push as quickly as possible for them to name him Super champ, so he can get a guaranteed title shot at the holder of the WBO belt, which figures to be Ortiz by the time he moves up. Hopefully Eddie will be willing to up the ante after seeing the ease with which Ennis disposed of Stanionis.

    If he's going to move up without finishing out strap season at 147, I would like to see him vs Bohachuk as an appetizer before he takes on Ortiz. Makes the narrative better, and Bohachuk won't duck any smoke and will do his best to give as good as he gets.
    Agree entirely with your post - Ortiz hasn't won any world belt yet if I'm not mistaken - pretty sure he wants one - Fundora vs Ortiz would be a decent fight - though I see Fundora losing handily. Let Ortiz have his day(s) in the sun - his style isn't suited for longevity anyway. Plus once he has a belt he has a bit more leverage and the fight with Ennis hopefully gets made more easily and gains more momentum.

    I don't go along with these writers saying Ortiz is the best at 154 - he struggled with Bohachuk and there's more work to be done before he can be crowned best at 154.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SteveM View Post

      it tells you 'slow' Eddie is maybe more canny than you give him credit for
      How’s that ???
      If by canny you mean it’ll probably cost him more than the 2.2 , yes very canny

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      • #13
        I'd like to see him clean out 147 and fight Norman and Barrios. I don't see that happening.

        Giyasov would be interesting I guess. I haven't been overly impressed with him. He looks great against overmatched foes in one fight and then struggles in his next fight. I do wonder how much of that has to do with his personal matters (illness and passing of his young daughter).

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        • #14
          There isn't anyone currently at 147 that I'm interested in seeing him fight. Like Stanionis, I'll watch the fight but I won't be expecting much.

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          • #15
            Norman vs Boots is a good fight. Norman will, most likely, be the guy running 147 once Boots moves up and that's the type of win that would age well. Norman also seems to have a style which will cause Boots more problems than Vergil would.
            Barrios isn't really cut out for world-level and would get utterly demolished by Boots. Sasaki, Giyasov, and Cissokho would all be more meaningful wins than Barrios, but, unfortunately due to the cruel hands of fate and Al Haymon, Barrios has a belt and none of the many contenders at 147 better than him don't. There are a lot of better fights for Boots at welter than Barrios but undisputed is a good accolade to have and stamps his claim as a historical welter.
            Honestly, I don't really think 147 is half as bad as people make it out to be. There are plenty of fun fights to be made with exciting, flawed contenders from all over the globe. The talent is there, it just needs activity.
            If Vergil wins a title at 154, then that would make a Boots fights much bigger in the coming future and allows them to build up a rivalry. Let each man build up their profile at their own weight and that fight could become a big event between two of the most exciting and talented Americans of recent years.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Dorrian_Grey View Post
              Norman vs Boots is a good fight. Norman will, most likely, be the guy running 147 once Boots moves up and that's the type of win that would age well. Norman also seems to have a style which will cause Boots more problems than Vergil would.
              Barrios isn't really cut out for world-level and would get utterly demolished by Boots. Sasaki, Giyasov, and Cissokho would all be more meaningful wins than Barrios, but, unfortunately due to the cruel hands of fate and Al Haymon, Barrios has a belt and none of the many contenders at 147 better than him don't. There are a lot of better fights for Boots at welter than Barrios but undisputed is a good accolade to have and stamps his claim as a historical welter.
              Honestly, I don't really think 147 is half as bad as people make it out to be. There are plenty of fun fights to be made with exciting, flawed contenders from all over the globe. The talent is there, it just needs activity.
              If Vergil wins a title at 154, then that would make a Boots fights much bigger in the coming future and allows them to build up a rivalry. Let each man build up their profile at their own weight and that fight could become a big event between two of the most exciting and talented Americans of recent years.
              I agree with you on almost all that you stated but the time has come and the time is now
              Boots has 34 fights under his belt , Ortiz has another 24
              How much more marinating can be done at this point ???

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              • #17
                Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                I agree with you on almost all that you stated but the time has come and the time is now
                Boots has 34 fights under his belt , Ortiz has another 24
                How much more marinating can be done at this point ???
                Both men are still squarely in their physical primes and neither seems to be slowing down. I expect Vergil to get a title at 154 later this year and Norman Jr. seems to be next up for Boots, probably later this year. If Vergil beats the winner of Fundora-Zayas and inherits the WBO belt from Crawford, both of which seem pretty likely, then a fight with Boots becomes a huge event between two unified, hard-hitting American champions. They are both still young, the fight will still most likely happen when neither man will be past prime. Things happen how they happen for a reason in life.

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                • #18
                  The next fight should be Norman; skills and style-wise it's the best challenge Ennis can get at 147. Norman is live in that match-up; I think some folks are underrating him.

                  And then a jump to 154 to fight Ortiz, but that may depend on him having a belt. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ennis fighting Madrimov before Ortiz tho because he's with Matchroom.

                  Anyone who's suggesting Barrios needs to check their head, that bout is a waste of all of our time.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dorrian_Grey View Post

                    Both men are still squarely in their physical primes and neither seems to be slowing down. I expect Vergil to get a title at 154 later this year and Norman Jr. seems to be next up for Boots, probably later this year. If Vergil beats the winner of Fundora-Zayas and inherits the WBO belt from Crawford, both of which seem pretty likely, then a fight with Boots becomes a huge event between two unified, hard-hitting American champions. They are both still young, the fight will still most likely happen when neither man will be past prime. Things happen how they happen for a reason in life.
                    Problem is there are only a few fights for all
                    Unless they fight lower level fighters and keep padding those records
                    That is the reason that Boots and company are kind of giving a Barrios and Norman ultimatums threatening to move up
                    Just a matter of time before Boots can’t make weight anymore and will be forded to move up

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JohnnyCan View Post
                      His resume is crap. He’ll get Barrios next. Easiest title unification in boxing at the moment and then Norman, probably 2nd easiest unification in boxing at the moment.
                      So gonna be a waste of 12-16 months for Bootsy and we’ll see if he can step up after that.
                      Step up because Ortiz cant stop eating Choziro?

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