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Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

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  • Spence resume only consists of gun shy Kell Brook.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      He beat the #1 ranked ww, top 5 p4p, 2 belt champion by ko to unify all 4 belts.


      Yeah you said that but it was Errol Spence who pretty much ruined himself outside of the ring

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      • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post





        Manny signed to fight him you said he was healthy despite the eye injury.


        Pull up where I said that

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          This is about ww. Not his whole career. Stop the diversionary garbage.

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          Its already nailed in the coffin Manny won the poll by a landslide

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            He beat the #1 ranked ww, top 5 p4p, 2 belt champion by ko to unify all 4 belts. That is keeping it real. Manny just couldn’t accomplish same.

            Funny you say this about Spence now. Did you say this when he was scheduled to fight Manny? Naw you didn’t.

            Manny signed to fight him you said he was healthy despite the eye injury. Crawford beats him and suddenly you change your perspective of Spence.


            Even if pac and bud best the same opponents at WW, pac would've been considered to have had greater career at WW as he started at much lower weight.
            Bud took 5 years to best Spence at WW, that win isn't great in hindsight when you can see spence has did nothing since and he's certainly not pf p no5 now, or even top 40 pfp. I can only bring myself to say it's a decent win
            Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 09:22 AM.

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            • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



              Crawford is doing that now after he unified all 4 titles at ww. He did same at LW and JWW. He is scheduled to fight the cash cow in Canelo next in the fight that has been talked about since it was announced.
              Just keep it a buck. Canelo don't need Crawford. Canelo has waay more options.
              You comparing a guy who doesn't fight in Crawford to a guy who fights everybody in Manny. At ww Manny could head a card and do great same with Canelo now, whereas Crawford can only headline in his hometown.

              Crawford is in the same vein as past fighters like his boy Ward, Bhop, Winky, even Pernell. Guys who are technically good to their own detriment. That's not a bad thing it's just how it is. Floyd was the same way until he came up with that Money May persona.
              Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 09:56 AM.

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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



                A reminder - Crawford v Spence sold 650-700k ppvs. Manny v Thurman sold 500k ppvs.

                How exactly did Crawford do more ppvs than Manny if Manny fought “the guy “ as you claim?
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                Lol Manny is 40 walking out of boxing performing like that

                Crawford in next fight against a no name opponent dropped roughly 600,000 so who was responsible for pulling that 600,000
                Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 09:44 AM.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Crawford isn’t as popular as Floyd so you can’t expect him to do those kind of numbers. He doesn’t have the charisma or ability to sell that Floyd has.
                  Lol. Crawford isn't even as popular as fighters in his current generation. Tank, Garcia, hell he can't even keep up with those guys.

                  Instead of sh""ting on Manny, maybe he should call him up and get some game on how to market yourself

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                  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                    Even if pac and bud best the same opponents at WW, pac would've been considered to have had greater career at WW as he started at much lower weight.
                    Bud took 5 years to best Spence at WW, that win isn't great in hindsight when you can see spence has did nothing since and he's certainly not pf p no5 now, or even top 40 pfp. I can only bring myself to say it's a decent win
                    This makes absolutely no sense. Crawford didn’t start at ww. He unified LW and JWW.

                    Spence has done nothing for less time than Thurman did after he lost to Manny. So the Thurman win can’t be that great either, if we are using your same standard to evaluate both l.

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                    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                      Lol Manny is 40 walking out of boxing performing like that

                      Crawford in next fight against a no name opponent dropped roughly 600,000 so who was responsible for pulling that 600,000
                      Hmm. Manny dropped 200k in sales from Bradley to Vargas. So who was responsible for the 200k?

                      How many ppv sales did he have with Horn? Oh yeah, that’s right, it had to be on ESPN because no one would buy such a garbage fight.

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