Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[TheProudLunatic]

38yo PacMan made the foolish decision of fighting Horn in Australia and paid the ultimate price despite landing DOUBLE the number of punches which SOFTENED him up for Bud to knock out.

The excuses Pac Bois have to tell themselves

Pac couldn't put a dent in Baby Margarito, doe

[HisExcellency]

Timmeh's best W ?
Sometime was coming off a war vs some journeyman before fighting Pac, some 15 months later.

Pac is an icon, no doubt.
Due to the fact there aren't many Pinoy boxers around.
He has them all to himself.
Whereas Bud fights in a country with many boxers.
If Bud was a Pinoy......
This place would go wild praising him

Lol Crawford only beat a badly damaged Spence coming off a life-changing car crash and years of hard partying. He also only fought TWICE in the 3.5 years preceding their fight.

Also, there’s NO way in hell that Crawford would beat a PRIME Cotto (even at a catchweight), Bradley thrice (similar robbery to Horn in fight 1 - 253 vs. 159 punches in favour of Manny) & Thurman (especially aged 40yo).

Also, you got it twisted, if PacMan was BLACK people would be proclaiming he’s better than SRR, Armstrong & Ali!

[TheProudLunatic]

Lol Crawford only beat a badly damaged Spence coming off a life-changing car crash and years of hard partying. He also only fought TWICE in the 3.5 years preceding their fight.

Also, there’s NO way in hell that Crawford would beat a PRIME Cotto (even at a catchweight), Bradley thrice (similar robbery to Horn in fight 1 - 253 vs. 159 punches in favour of Manny) & Thurman.

Also, you got it twisted, if PacMan was BLACK people would be proclaiming he’s better than SRR, Armstrong & Ali!

1) That's Spences prob, not Buds. Was Bud supposed to get into car accidents as well ? I'd still pick THAT Spence to beat every Pac opp not named May !

2) You're a hardcore Pac Boi for sure, thinking that was a legit version of Cotto Pac fought !!!! Spence ends him sooner. Pac was no doubt robbed vs Timmeh and HORN (CPGW). How does an icon let that happen to him ?!?!?

3) To many black boxers. Pac would get a larger portion of the attention but nowhere near the attention he gets being a Pinoy (who was also a Senator ) !!!!!

Thanks for telling me Timmeh's best W

[HisExcellency]

1) That's Spences prob, not Buds. Was Bud supposed to get into car accidents as well ? I'd still pick THAT Spence to beat every Pac opp not named May !

2) You're a hardcore Pac Boi for sure, thinking that was a legit version of Cotto Pac fought !!!! Spence ends him sooner. Pac was no doubt robbed vs Timmeh and HORN (CPGW). How does an icon let that happen to him ?!?!?

3) To many black boxers. Pac would get a larger portion of the attention but nowhere near the attention he gets being a Pinoy (who was also a Senator ) !!!!!

Thanks for telling me Timmeh's best W

1) Doesn’t matter. Crawford’s BEST win of his career will always be tainted by the fact that he beat a badly damaged, inactive fighter. Also, Spence ducked Thurman for years in his prime so imagine what One Time would do to that joke version.

2) Cotto was in his PRIME when he fought Pacquiao and a dominant champion at Welterweight (far better than the older, shopworn version Mayweather beat after a few losses). He’d have no trouble dealing with Spence either.

3) PacMan gets the attention he does due to his UNMATCHED career achievements (only 8 division world champion & 4 decade champion) NOT because of his race.

[TheProudLunatic]

1) Doesn’t matter. Crawford’s BEST win of his career will always be tainted by the fact that he beat a badly damaged, inactive fighter. Also, Spence ducked Thurman for years in his prime so imagine what One Time would do to that joke version.

2) Cotto was in his PRIME when he fought Pacquiao and a dominant champion at Welterweight (far better than the older, shopworn version Mayweather beat after a few losses). He’d have no trouble dealing with Spence either.

3) PacMan gets the attention he does due to his UNMATCHED career achievements (only 8 division world champion & 4 decade champion) NOT because of his race.

1) I still say THAT SPENCE destroys all of Pac's opps not named May. Giving the W vs Cotto LITE is a joke....
1b) Errol Spence ordered to defend WBC title against Keith Thurman

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-keith-thurman

"However, Spence has been steadfast that he would never give Thurman a shot at his three titles because Thurman showed no interest in fighting him years ago."

Now YOU supply a link that supports YOUR POV !

2) Cotto LITE was NOT PRIME. Pac would not grant him a rematch without a similar clause. Why is that, I wonder !!!!! Pac had the easiest WW lineup in the history of the div !!!!

Let's take a look at those sorrowful names -
DONE La Hoya (absolutely the worst version)
Hatton (May did it 1st. Hatton never amounted to anything other than a fan favorite)
Cotto Lite (the worst version and this is not up for debate)
Clottey (typical journeyman)
Margarito (worst version)
Mosley (worst version)
JMM 3 & 4 ( 4x ?!?!?)
Timmeh 3x ( 3x ?!?!?!)
Baby Margarito ( Brandon Rios on Pacquiao loss: I was never hurt, but Manny was too fast)
Alcherry
May ( who's older than Pac with 2 damaged fists. Pac losing so many times before their fight is Pac's fault. They could have fought much sooner if Pac agreed to RANDOM BLOOD tests )
Vargas ( )
HORN (CPGW) !!!!
Lucas (See Vargas)
Almost Bumlevel
Sometime (after a 15 mon layoff to let some booboos heal from a previous fight. Pac's best WW W, thanks to a flash KD)
Basic AF Ugas.

So tell me, which of the above fights is supposed to impress me

3) 8 div fraud. Never any names to go with the bullshlt !!!!

[HisExcellency]

1) I still say THAT SPENCE destroys all of Pac's opps not named May. Giving the W vs Cotto LITE is a joke....
1b) Errol Spence ordered to defend WBC title against Keith Thurman

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-keith-thurman

"However, Spence has been steadfast that he would never give Thurman a shot at his three titles because Thurman showed no interest in fighting him years ago."

Now YOU supply a link that supports YOUR POV !

2) Cotto LITE was NOT PRIME. Pac would not grant him a rematch without a similar clause. Why is that, I wonder !!!!! Pac had the easiest WW lineup in the history of the div !!!!

Let's take a look at those sorrowful names -
DONE La Hoya (absolutely the worst version)
Hatton (May did it 1st. Hatton never amounted to anything other than a fan favorite)
Cotto Lite (the worst version and this is not up for debate)
Clottey (typical journeyman)
Margarito (worst version)
Mosley (worst version)
JMM 3 & 4 ( 4x ?!?!?)
Timmeh 3x ( 3x ?!?!?!)
Baby Margarito ( Brandon Rios on Pacquiao loss: I was never hurt, but Manny was too fast)
Alcherry
May ( who's older than Pac with 2 damaged fists. Pac losing so many times before their fight is Pac's fault. They could have fought much sooner if Pac agreed to RANDOM BLOOD tests )
Vargas ( )
HORN (CPGW) !!!!
Lucas (See Vargas)
Almost Bumlevel
Sometime (after a 15 mon layoff to let some booboos heal from a previous fight. Pac's best WW W, thanks to a flash KD)
Basic AF Ugas.

So tell me, which of the above fights is supposed to impress me

3) 8 div fraud. Never any names to go with the bullshlt !!!!

LMAO too much BS and delusion to warrant a response. Pacquiao is a top 10 ATG. Deal with it.

[TheProudLunatic]

LMAO too much BS and delusion to warrant a response. Pacquiao is a top 10 ATG. Deal with it.

You have no response
You don't even have a link to show your POV
You're not a fight fan

[TheProudLunatic]

Pac opps that Porter would beat -
Rios
Alcherry
Vargas
Lucas
Almost Bumlevel
Hatton
HORN
DONE la Hoya
Clottey
JMM
Margarito

Maybe Ugas

[HisExcellency]

You have no response
You don't even have a link to show your POV
You're not a fight fan

Lol Spence fought Thurman’s leftovers e.g. Garcia & Porter AFTER Keith had already handled business which tells you everything.

As for Pacquiao, his CV and career achievements speak for themself. He started his career 22lbs LIGHTER than Floyd yet conquered more weight classes (8 vs. 5) for longer (4 decades vs. 3). Your DELUSIONAL & laughable take on his CV is about as useful as used toilet paper after diarrhoea!

[TheProudLunatic]

Lol Spence fought Thurman’s leftovers e.g. Garcia & Porter AFTER Keith had already handled business which tells you everything.

As for Pacquiao, his CV and career achievements speak for themself. He started his career 22lbs LIGHTER than Floyd yet conquered more weight classes (8 vs. 5) for longer (4 decades vs. 3). Your DELUSIONAL & laughable take on his CV is about as useful as used toilet paper after diarrhoea!

1) Spence crushes everyone Pac fought, except May.

2) Let's take a look .....
Shopworn Eric 3x
Shopworn Marco 2x
Decent W's
Typical plodding, 1 gear, face first types
Ditto JMM 2x
Perfect Pac opp.
Willing to stand there and trade !

Now for the hysterical portion of his resume. The portion too painful for you to discuss IN DETAIL -

DONE La Hoya (absolutely the worst version)
Hatton (May did it 1st. Hatton never amounted to anything other than a fan favorite)
Cotto Lite (the worst version and this is not up for debate)
Clottey (typical journeyman)
Margarito (worst version)
Mosley (worst version)
JMM 3 & 4 ( 4x ?!?!?)
Timmeh 3x ( 3x ?!?!?!)
Baby Margarito ( Brandon Rios on Pacquiao loss: I was never hurt, but Manny was too fast)
Alcherry
May ( who's older than Pac with 2 damaged fists. Pac losing so many times before their fight is Pac's fault. They could have fought much sooner if Pac agreed to RANDOM BLOOD tests )
Vargas ( )
HORN (CPGW) !!!!
Lucas (See Vargas)
Almost Bumlevel
Sometime (after a 15 mon layoff to let some booboos heal from a previous fight. Pac's best WW W, thanks to a flash KD)
Basic AF Ugas.

So tell me, which of the above fights is supposed to impress me