Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[The Big Dunn]

Manny's past prime win over prime Thurman is equal if not better

What natural welterweight did Floyd beat

Please go away. Thurman is not on Spence level. Let’s not overrate him just because Manny beat him. But yes Manny wasn’t prime. That Thurman couldn’t beat him speaks volumes about how good he actually was.

This thread is about Crawford and Manny’s resumes at ww. Manny has some bad losses. I didn’t even count the Bradley loss.

His losses, combined with the condition of the top names on his resume at ww, makes their respective ww resumes about equal.

[djtmal]

Thurman is not on Spence level.

You wish.

Thurman has never been stopped, and we still waiting on Spence to prove he can even beat a c fighter after a loss.

[djtmal]

This thread is about Crawford and Manny’s resumes at ww. Manny has some bad losses. I didn’t even count the Bradley loss.

Right to which you trying to use Manny's past prime losses to make Crawford look better.

Crawford is just hitting his past prime career with this fight at jmw (not super impressive) and he already avoiding young hungry lions at 147 and 154. Looking to cash out vs a shopworn Canelo.

Manny was past prime fighting young hungry lions until his last fight.

Lets see if Crawford even makes it to 60+ fights like Manny did.

[The Big Dunn]

Right to which you trying to use Manny's past prime losses to make Crawford look better.

Crawford is just hitting his past prime career with this fight at jmw (not super impressive) and he already avoiding young hungry lions at 147 and 154. Looking to cash out vs a shopworn Canelo.

Manny was past prime fighting young hungry lions until his last fight.

Lets see if Crawford even makes it to 60+ fights like Manny did.

No. I asked how the losses factor into his resume/ the TS only included wins. Perfectly reasonable point I made.

Manny wasn’t fighting young hungry lions. He fought guys he thought were easy wins and he lost to Horn and Ugas.

He also lost to Floyd by a wide margin at 147.

Why would he need to do that? Many of those fights were bums in 3rd world countries early in Manny’s career.

This is just about ww. Stuck to the subject and stop trying to divert to something else.

[djtmal]

This is just about ww. Stuck to the subject and stop trying to divert to something else.

Pacquiao 93.75

Crawford 6.25

[djtmal]

Manny wasn’t fighting young hungry lions. He fought guys he thought were easy wins and he lost to Horn and Ugas.

He also lost to Floyd by a wide margin army 147.
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Ugas Horn and Floyd Manny was already shopworn, and prime Crawford at ww you can say the same only fighting easy fights has two legit names a shopworn Khan and Spence and let's not sit here and not admit Spence has an asterisk.

[djtmal]

I asked how the losses factor into his resume/ the TS only included wins. Perfectly reasonable point I made.
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No its not and they don't factor in Crawford doesn't have a past prime to evaluate Manny does. Manny's losses come past his prime.

[djtmal]

Manny wasn’t fighting young hungry lions.

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Wtf are you talking about Manny was fighting any and everybody.

Is Crawford? Ennis was game at 147 why Crawford didn't shut people's mouths before trying to cherrypick Canelo

He must think he another Floyd as soon as some threats come in your division here come the excuses

No surprise Crawford only has 1 fight since beating Spence when he gonna realize he's not that guy and he got more work to put in. 2023 and counting

[STREET CLEANER]

Spence was a real good win for Bud but too bad he was inactive, injured in the car accident and suffered another eye injury before the fight. Bud mostly wasted is career waiting for a big fight that never came through, basically Spence had to directly go to him to make the fight happen. Wasted talent.

[MulaKO]

Spence was a real good win for Bud but too bad he was inactive, injured in the car accident and suffered another eye injury before the fight. Bud mostly wasted is career waiting for a big fight that never came through, basically Spence had to directly go to him to make the fight happen. Wasted talent.

Spence had to go to Bud ???
That's certainly not how I recall that situation
Bud was the one who was calling Spence personally