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Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?
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Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View PostCotto Lite (worst version)
Done La Hoya (worst version)
Life and Death (mostly death) vs JMM
Desert Breeze (somewhat.,.....ok Ws)
Almost Bumlevel
Baby Margarito
Lucas!!!
Vargas (see Lucas)
Sometime is the only name really worth mentioning
Spence eats them all up.
The only answer is Bud.
Horn - One of The worst 147 champs
Benavides Jr - lol
Amir Khan - washed and Bud still needed to punch him in the balls for the win
Mean Machine - Not even top 30 147lber of the past 10 years, yet still dropped Bud
Brook - washed, GGG and Spence had all ready broken each eye socket
Porter - was basically semi retired at this point
Avanesyan - decent top 20 (but not top 10) opponent
Errol Spence Jr, an alcoholic who had only 2 fights in the nearly 4 years prior to Bud Spence
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I say Crawford since he is undefeated and is a two-time Undisputed champion in the four belt era.
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Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
Can all try making up some negatives
Horn - One of The worst 147 champs
Benavides Jr - lol
Amir Khan - washed and Bud still needed to punch him in the balls for the win
Mean Machine - Not even top 30 147lber of the past 10 years, yet still dropped Bud
Brook - washed, GGG and Spence had all ready broken each eye socket
Porter - was basically semi retired at this point
Avanesyan - decent top 20 (but not top 10) opponent
Errol Spence Jr, an alcoholic who had only 2 fights in the nearly 4 years prior to Bud Spence
Benny Jr > Lil Marge, Clottey, Lucas, Vargas, Almost Bumlevel - lol indeed
Avan, Brook & Khan > Those same above names AND Old LH. I would give Broke a good chance at beating the Cotto Pac fought
Porter is the better version of Almost Bumlevel and HORN
Spence would not lose a single WW fight if he had Pac's flimsy resume
This is fun
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Pac notable paydays -
vs May, 160 mil. Of course.
vs Done La Hoya, 6 mil
vs Cotto Lite, 22 mil
vs Super Shot Mosley, 20 mil
vs Sometime, 10 mil
vs HORN, 10 mil
vs Almost Bumlevel, 10 mil
Seems about right for someone as popular as Pac
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Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View PostCotto Lite (worst version)
Done La Hoya (worst version)
Life and Death (mostly death) vs JMM
Desert Breeze (somewhat.,.....ok Ws)
Almost Bumlevel
Baby Margarito
Lucas!!!
Vargas (see Lucas)
Sometime is the only name really worth mentioning
Spence eats them all up.
The only answer is Bud.
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Originally posted by Haka
Lucas is comparable to Maidana, prime Dessert Storm is better than prime Hatton. Rios was never baby Margarito because Margarito was already champ in WW in 2001 and was at the top for a decade.
Prime Timmeh is aight. No one but Pac Bois claim Hatton
The sport anointed Rios Baby Marge, not me
I'll take the credit, doe
Margarito Sr best W was vs Martinez
Some might say Kermit is a good scalp.....
"Yeah, but, Martinez didn't beat him !"
Martínez vs. Cintron
Martínez claimed the Interim WBC light middleweight championship on 4 October 2008, beating Alex Bunema via an eighth round retirement.On 14 February 2009 Martínez fought to a majority draw against Puerto Rican Kermit Cintron. The fight was controversial for a number of reasons; during the seventh round Martínez knocked Cintron down with a clean left hand shot and the referee reached the count of ten and waved the fight off. However, this was disputed by Cintron, who claimed that the knockdown was a result of a headbutt but actually the headbutt which Cintron claimed to have happened was actually an extremely powerful and accurate cross from Sergio Martínez. Cintron's protestations led to the referee overturning his decision and the fight continued. The fight went the twelve round distance and the scorecards revealed a draw, many ringside observers felt that the decision was a robbery and that Martínez easily outboxed Cintron and should have gained the victory
See for yourself
I'd put all my money on Martinez winning a rematch and the 3rd
Was never the face of boxing or p4p king. Just an Arum hype job who never lived up to his fan(s) expectations
Clottey almost beat Margarito, with one hand injured
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