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  • #31
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
    Long sigh. As it happens, I was a (minor) part of the "Bring in the feds" group almost 50 years ago, which many years later resulted in the passing of Muhammad Ali act in 2000. That was supposed to represent a good start.


    Anyway......
    One might consider that the Alphabet Soup Organizations (Companies) are not administrators of the sport, and have no legal charter that compells any particular level of good behavior or integrity.
    The world ratings that they issue are merely a tool used to set up title fights, and should not be regarded as an earnest attempt to force rank boxers. That job is undertaken by media brands such as The Ring Magazine.

    Good explanation of the Alphabet Bandits role in boxing.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by 57Blues View Post
      Well before i get all fired up about the person in question it just agitates me that Arum and all the rest could care less about anything other then a chance to draw a few fools into the tent again...... Arum said never again about this guy(more then twice) as do most promo boys, and platforms are just say line them up and we will show them on the screen for a price. But then they show up again, freak shows and no shows the whole lot of them, they hope fans will get caught in the hate um hope they lose mind set. Ehhh Boxing..............
      The drug cheat is a marketable guy as a villain. People will pay to see him get his butt kicked. He has an interesting personality & he can help sell a fight pretty well...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by luvgun View Post
        He rose up to the ranks as if it was on steroids.

        Well played sir , well played indeed. You win the Internet today !

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        • #34
          Jarrell Miller is similar to that Mixed Martial Arts fighter, and Misfits fighter Anthony Taylor. 'They play a specific role, and to their credit? They play it very well. Jarrell Miller I personally don't think has many loyal fans, in the same way fighters such as Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Derek Chisora, Canelo Alvarez, and Oleksandr Uysk have fans. If you are supporting Jarrell Miller, what exactly are you supporting? If you support a fighter like Anthony Joshua or Oleksandr Uysk, you are supporting and admiring their passion, work ethic, honesty, competitiveness in the sport. And their character'.

          And as a supporter and admirer of that level of fighter, you can build a rapport with their qualities. Which then can inspire people in their own lives 'Because as Rocky Balboa stated himself, Boxing is a metaphor to life'.

          But Miller does have people who are interested in his career, due to how he attacks and promotes the fights he is competing in 'Maybe in some ways certain folk are quietly wanting him to redeem himself'.

          Note: I personally don't think he should be in the WBA tournament, but? He is, because that is show business 'A fighter like Jarrell Miller from what I have seen of him thus far in his career, would not be able to compete or achieve much in any other sport. Being aggressive, and harassing competitors is not going to make you a top NBA player, Tennis Player, Track and Field Athlete or Formula One Driver. It won't even get you opportunities'.

          To conclude: But in boxing, there does seem to astonishingly be a place for everybody 'And that is why it is an awesome sport'. It was Mike Tyson who stated in his own words 'Boxing can take a person from the street, elevate them alongside Nobility, and many other members of Aristocracy. Jarrell Miller somehow and someway is in the presence of Prestigious Lonsdale British Boxing Champions, Olympic Champions and World Champions'.

          This is Jarrell Miller's biggest opportunity since his fight against Anthony Joshua 'It also looks like one of his last big opportunities, if he should be unable to win the fight'.

          Fabio Wardley if he is to achieve anything beyond Domestic and European level 'Has to win this fight, and WBA tournament. This is his Litmus test, against Jarrell Miller who I personally don't regard as a World level fighter but? He has shown solid durability to a point, and he is a aggressive fighter' etc.

          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-12-2025, 07:56 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
            Jarrell Miller is similar to that Mixed Martial Arts fighter, and Misfits fighter Anthony Taylor. 'They play a specific role, and to their credit? They play it very well. Jarrell Miller I personally don't think has many loyal fans, in the same way fighters such as Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Derek Chisora, Canelo Alvarez, and Oleksandr Uysk have fans. If you are supporting Jarrell Miller, what exactly are you supporting? If you support a fighter like Anthony Joshua or Oleksandr Uysk, you are supporting and admiring their passion, work ethic, honesty, competitiveness in the sport. And their character'.

            And as a supporter and admirer of that level of fighter, you can build a rapport with their qualities. Which then can inspire people in their own lives 'Because as Rocky Balboa stated himself, Boxing is a metaphor to life'.

            But Miller does have people who are interested in his career, due to how he attacks and promotes the fights he is competing in 'Maybe in some ways certain folk are quietly wanting him to redeem himself'.

            Note: I personally don't think he should be in the WBA tournament, but? He is, because that is show business 'A fighter like Jarrell Miller from what I have seen of him thus far in his career, would not be able to compete or achieve much in any other sport. Being aggressive, and harassing competitors is not going to make you a top NBA player, Tennis Player, Track and Field Athlete or Formula One Driver. It won't even get you opportunities'.

            To conclude: But in boxing, there does seem to astonishingly be a place for everybody 'And that is why it is an awesome sport'. It was Mike Tyson who stated in his own words 'Boxing can take a person from the street, elevate them alongside Nobility, and many other members of Aristocracy. Jarrell Miller somehow and someway is in the presence of Prestigious Lonsdale British Boxing Champions, Olympic Champions and World Champions'.

            This is Jarrell Miller's biggest opportunity since his fight against Anthony Joshua 'It also looks like one of his last big opportunities, if he should be unable to win the fight'.

            Fabio Wardley if he is to achieve anything beyond Domestic and European level 'Has to win this fight, and WBA tournament. This is his Litmus test, against Jarrell Miller who I personally don't regard as a World level fighter but? He has shown solid durability to a point, and he is a aggressive fighter' etc.
            I always read and enjoy your perspectives, and keep my reading glasses ready for the occasion, lest I strain my eyes.
            I believe that Miller has some stuff.

            In sports other than Boxing???.....

            In Kickboxing, he was a star with the World Combat League, K-1 and Glory and went 36-2. He defeated K-1 veteran Pat Barry at the WCL Eastern & Western Conference Finals and he was ranked # 3 in the world following an easy win over Lithuanian champion Arnold Oborotov, who just came off a draw with legendary Jerome LeBanner, according to Liverkick.com; he blew away winning & experienced MMA vet, 6'8" Jack "The Outlaw" May, and 6'11" Romanian MMA giant Radu Spinghel; and had no trouble in that sport; and he was the first American to make it all the way to the K-1 World Grand Prix FINAL. Indeed, his 2 losses came from razor thin decisions to Mirki "Cro Cop" Filipovic, the legendary K-1 and MMA Champion; before graduating to boxing at full maturity, once he decided that he wanted to make real money for fighting; which he now is.

            Joshua was gonna get wrecked IMO. By Miller, or his stand-in Ruiz Jr., which he was.


            My only point is that Miller is no linebacker they just pulled off the street; and represents a giant leap for Fabio; who had better come ready if Miller does.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              I always read and enjoy your perspectives, and keep my reading glasses ready for the occasion, lest I strain my eyes.
              I believe that Miller has some stuff.

              In sports other than Boxing???.....

              In Kickboxing, he was a star with the World Combat League, K-1 and Glory and went 36-2. He defeated K-1 veteran Pat Barry at the WCL Eastern & Western Conference Finals and he was ranked # 3 in the world following an easy win over Lithuanian champion Arnold Oborotov, who just came off a draw with legendary Jerome LeBanner, according to Liverkick.com; he blew away winning & experienced MMA vet, 6'8" Jack "The Outlaw" May, and 6'11" Romanian MMA giant Radu Spinghel; and had no trouble in that sport; and he was the first American to make it all the way to the K-1 World Grand Prix FINAL. Indeed, his 2 losses came from razor thin decisions to Mirki "Cro Cop" Filipovic, the legendary K-1 and MMA Champion; before graduating to boxing at full maturity, once he decided that he wanted to make real money for fighting; which he now is.

              Joshua was gonna get wrecked IMO. By Miller, or his stand-in Ruiz Jr., which he was.


              My only point is that Miller is no linebacker they just pulled off the street; and represents a giant leap for Fabio; who had better come ready if Miller does.
              This is definitively Fabio Wardley's litmus test 'His promoters have pulled out all the stops i.e. He is fighting Jarrell Miller in his home towns football Club Stadium'. All the pressure is on Fabio Wardley, and there is no real pressure being put on Jarrell Miller apart from the expectations that he has of himself with his team'.

              I am aware of K1 fighting Championship 'I used to regularly watch this event at times. I do know that Francis Botha used to also fight in this Championship, and gave a solid account of himself. There was also a British Heavyweight Boxer called Pele Ried, who fought in the K1 fighting Championship'.

              Some great characters in that tournament such as Bob Sapp, Gary Goodridge, Ray Sefo, Ernest Hoost, Remy Bonjasky 'Those seemed to be always the fighters competing when I would watch the event'.

              Jarrell Miller was a not a Global Champion in Kick Boxing, and thus-far he has not been a Global Champion or genuine top level fighter in boxing 'But I will acknowledge that he can fight, and although I think his conditioning and work ethic is terrible. Miller is still not quite your regular 280 to 300 + pound out of condition average joe off the street, if he was he would have been smashed up badly by now. So he has at the very least got that going for him'.

              Apart from that I really don't rate Jarrell Miller, I don't particularly think he is a big time performer 'As in all of his big fight opportunities he has lost, people cannot say that about Anthony Joshua. He has won Multiple Global titles both in the Amateur and professional ranks, and? Although people may mock him for losing against Andy Ruiz Junior I? At least Joshua has avenged a loss to Andy Ruiz Junior II, which in my opinion is one of the most difficult challenges a professional fighter can overcome in the sport'.

              Note: Out of the three Heavyweight Mountains of this era 'Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Only Joshua has achieved the feat, of being able to avenge a loss on his resume'.

              Anthony Joshua is an Olympic Champion, Two Time World Heavyweight Champion and? He beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Tyson Fury fought in their scheduled rematch but unfortunately did not due to his then circumstance. Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is still the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years, and it was he fight which forced Kiltschko into retirement. Conclusively taking the Heavyweight Divisions into a completely new dynasty'.

              To conclude: 'Fabio Wardley should at the very least aim to win by unanimous decisions, or a stoppage in the later rounds. I don't inversion Wardley being a dominant future World Champion, but? He does have some potential to at the very least fight for a World title. But before he moves onto those challenges, he has to get past Jarrell Miller'.

              When Miller during the press conference confronted Fabio Wardley 'I saw shades of Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis. The reason why Tyson attempted to harass Lewis during their first press conference, was a old school tactic. People do that to see how far they can push, before they encounter some resistance'. Miller has an entirely different demeanour around fighters such as Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora'.

              So like I said, Jarrell Miller plays a part and to his credit he has been playing it well 'Boxing is show business, it is theatre. The stage is set for both fighters, for Miller to redeem himself with a solid win or Wardley to progress onto World level' etc.




              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-14-2025, 08:40 AM.

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