Crawford says he is Top 3 ATG with Robinson and Ali if he beats Canelo at 168

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  • LarryMerchant'sBottle
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    #61
    Originally posted by HandsofIron
    Crawford didn't have to jump 2 weight classes to be ATG since he already is.

    Right now, Crawford is top 10 ATG, if he cleans out 154 and beats Booty Ennis, he's top 5.
    Not sure if this is a joke, but if not, what is this opinion based on? The eye test? His resume and who he he's beaten??? How or why do you see him as a top 10 ATG?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Toffee

      True.

      So do modern boxers even fight enough to be considered alongside the greats of yesterday? It's the same sport with vastly different performances.

      For example, Fury tried to argue he was one of the best ever purely on the strength of his best two wins. Obviously both of those were questionable as all time great wins anyway but depth of resume was always a legitimate counter argument.

      Does anyone have the depth now to be an ATG?
      ray leonard is barely top 10 ever and he has 3 wins over p4p #1 (2 stoppages) and 4 wins over atgs in their prime. that will probably never happen again with inactivity, ****** matchmaking, talent going in another direction and promoter protection program. it's very difficult to become an atg when your resume doesn't have quality nor quantity.

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      • Gary Coleman
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        #63
        Given the circumstances, Ray Leonard's victory over Hagler is FAR more impressive than Bud potentially beating Canelo.

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        • SUBZER0ED
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          #64
          Originally posted by garfios

          By the way, ginger wasn't drained down, he even offered to fight a 150, that was his begging mode.
          As I recall, Floyd wanted Canelo to drain down to 150, but Red said that he just couldn't do it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman
            Given the circumstances, Ray Leonard's victory over Hagler is FAR more impressive than Bud potentially beating Canelo.
            I didn't like that fight. Leonard's shoe shining at the last 30 second mark of most rounds should not have won him the match. But I agree that IF Bud beats Canelo, that will not cement him as an ATG above Robinson and Ali. No freaking way.
            Last edited by SUBZER0ED; 04-14-2025, 07:03 PM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

              As I recall, Floyd wanted Canelo to drain down to 150, but Red said that he just couldn't do it.
              I recall ginger offering 150 a few months before the fight.

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                #67
                1. TBE Mayweather
                2. Prime Fury (unbeaten)
                3. Prime Wilder (Not the clone)
                4. Tokyo Douglas
                5. Golovkin
                6. Green Nelo
                7. Amir King Khan't
                8. Boots Ennis
                9. Inoue
                10. Prime Martin Rogan

                Nash out - His Majesty

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Nash out
                  1. TBE Mayweather
                  2. Prime Fury (unbeaten)
                  3. Prime Wilder (Not the clone)
                  4. Tokyo Douglas
                  5. Golovkin
                  6. Green Nelo
                  7. Amir King Khan't
                  8. Boots Ennis
                  9. Inoue
                  10. Prime Martin Rogan

                  Nash out - His Majesty
                  Wrong. The only right answer at #1 is, Terence “TBE” Crawford.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                    I didn't like that fight. Leonard's shoe shining at the last 30 second mark of most rounds should not have won him the match. But I agree that IF Bud beats Canelo, that will not cement him as an ATG above Robinson and Ali. No freaking way.
                    I haven't watched that fight in a few years, but the last time I watched it, I scored it for Ray by a couple of rounds.

                    He gets flack for those 30 seconds, but he made it count and was pasting Hagler. In-between all of that, he was landing crisp clean shots.

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                      #70
                      Lmao. Top 3? He would be number one. Anyone saying no is a moron. H'es mocing up an additional 3 weight classes and already started from 135.

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