Who is killing boxing?

[MulaKO]

Careful with this talking point. I've said it many a times and the Fraud heads come out to say it ain't so.

That said, boxing is cannibalizing itself lately. This past weekend was a perfect example. There were like 5 cards you could tune into at the exact same time taking place. Meanwhile the rest of the week where it's dead, you get nothing. It drives me nuts when you might go a weekend or two with no fights and then the next weekend, just stacked and now you're forced to almost choose which one you want to watch more, or do the annoying flipping back and forth.

Something that was interesting that a buddy pointed out this past weekend. Despite ProBox being a very solid and serious boxing network to tune into for their fights, this past weekend there were more folks watching Miguel Cotto's card live on Youtube than the live ProBox card. That blew my mind. Who the hell even knew Miguel Cotto had his own promotion on Youtube where you could watch them live? lol.

Who the hell even knew Miguel Cotto had his own promotion on Youtube where you could watch them live

Thanks for that tidbit of info
Wasn't aware either

[ELPacman]

Who the hell even knew Miguel Cotto had his own promotion on Youtube where you could watch them live

Thanks for that tidbit of info
Wasn't aware either

I didn't know either. There is also another one that is based out of Dominican Republic he told me about called, Shaun Boxing. Both the Cotto one and this one was stacked with upcomers. Mostly local fighters but they'll bring someone in too from another country on occasion. Worth subscribing so you can get notified when they're about to drop a Live card.

[TelMex]

PBC between years of in-house fights, charging for for non-worthy PPVs, $80 PPVs, inactive fighters, email champions, screwing over networks, etc. Really thought they were the savior of boxing a decade ago.

[sbbigmike]

Hi guys and gals, I hope all is well. I remember a few years back I'd not schedule any activity on fight night, Tuesday's and Friday's used to be cards on the USA and ESPN channels, not to mention the Sunday's afternoon of Worldwide of Sports, I didn't miss any of them, for the past two or three years I find my self not interested on fights not even involving fighters I like and follow. For me is the lack of real big fights and the alphabet soups not enforcing their own rules, fighters commanding big purses without taking any risk and I think this trend started with Floyd, and for the past four or five years canelo taking it to a new level. What do you guys think?

Pbc the sport was promising as hell a couple of years back....we don't care no more and these new guys don't have half the talent of last generation due to them making too much money

[sbbigmike]

PBC between years of in-house fights, charging for for non-worthy PPVs, $80 PPVs, inactive fighters, email champions, screwing over networks, etc. Really thought they were the savior of boxing a decade ago.

Pbc for sure...

And the even managed to ruin the great Manny Pacquiao career with their switcheroo I have no doubt in my mind they never intended on Spence fighting Manny and no way Spence allows ugas to jump in front his money unless that was the plan all along

Not to mention the suspect half hearted fighting out of camp pbc...All Pbc

[crimsonfalcon07]

There's a lot of things that fans don't like, and if fans don't like, they don't buy or watch. Right now there's a lot of good ways to spend time and money. Any sport needs to answer the question "why should you spend your time with me rather than something else?" Fight fans often want to spend their time watching UFC these days, likely because the value is way better. You get more fights, more that are relevant to the title picture, and there's at least some perception that the best will eventually fight the best, Jon Jones not withstanding.

Boxing has a lot of top fighters avoiding other top fighters, especially in the classes that used to be glamour divisions, and there's constant bad officiating and judging that goes completely unpunished. Cards frequently have maybe one or two decent fights and then a bunch of lower quality ones, and these days you're expected to pay handsomely for it. There's a lot of mismatches between A-side fighters and gimme fights. Up until recently, you could safely assume that there would be very little cross-promotional fights except in the lighter divisions. The alphabet organizations make terrible decisions that frequently stand in the way of the fights we want to see. The issues are well known but the big players have vested interest in keeping them the way they've always been and resist making tangible changes.

It's still a billion dollar industry, so I don't think it's fair to say it's dying. But IMO the major financial players have been consistently trying to shoot it in the foot because they don't want to have to work together or make positive (for the fans) changes because that would introduce more financial risk. And, IMO it's dominated by a bunch of technological fuddy-duddies who have failed to keep pace with the technological evolution of sports marketing.

[Smash]

turki is killing it
no pbc is killing it
no hearn is killing it
or wait im confused now

[brettWall]

It's still a billion dollar industry, so I don't think it's fair to say it's dying.

HBO, Showtime, Fox Sports, etc. would not have exited boxing if it's "a billion dollar industry." So that's nonsense. If it's a billion dollar industry fans would be watching big fights every week.

[Sheikh]

I think the biggest problem is the fact that boxers avoid the biggest challenges and the big fights rarely happen or take way too long to happen. Boxers are also are not active enough and there's way too many belts and weight classes

[MulaKO]

I think the biggest problem is the fact that boxers avoid the biggest challenges and the big fights rarely happen or take way too long to happen. Boxers are also are not active enough and there's way too many belts and weight classes

Yup , Floyd really entertained that train of thought and overwhelmingly influenced a whole generation