Comments Thread For: Top Rank, PBC plotting several cards to keep big fights in U.S.

[DClefthook]

Any promotional company who doesn't, Are you enlighten now?

Yes I am enlightened because you should've said "any" before you singled out just PBC. Now we're getting somewhere!

[BlackRobb]

You have to ask why PBC hasn't already made Barrios vs Norman and Lara vs Adames. Maybe Barrios and Lara don't fancy it?

Lara will fight (and wash) anyone. Barrios not so much.

[DClefthook]

its called Floyditis - a disease that many North American fighters succumb to but the main symptom, that of avoiding 50-50 fights, is largely ignored by Belt organizations and the American public.
How ironic that those who hate MAGA are mostly the ones ban-ging the patriotic drum for MABGA - Make American Boxing Great Again

Let me SPLAIN SUMTIN TO YAH Mr Steven. When you and your boxing friends use terms like "North American fighters" or "PBC fighters" or singling out "Al Haymon" you do know that you're not using some type of coded language. We know what you're talking about. You're just not smart enough to cover your tracks. It's no different than the media using terms like "thugs" or "gang****ers". We know whom they're referring to. Have you watched any recent American military movies like BLACK HAWK DOWN or CAPTAIN PHILLIPS when the US soldiers are fighting African militia men and they always refer to them as "skinnys"? You do know that's the N word right? You guys don't even know it because you're so used to saying stoopid shyte like that and no one ever calls you out. That;s why I'm hated by a lot of you because I don't mind calling you out. But besides all that I for the life of me can't understand why you Brits are sooooo against Americans when in real life you follow right behind us in everything we do. When America has covert operations where they send Delta, Seals and Rangers the S.A.S. are right beside them. When our economy goes up we make sure yours does too. When British actors are good enough to crossover they go to HOLLYWOOD not BOLLYWOOD. Boxing is no different. When US boxing thrives then the UK boxing will as well. Why are you guys so hell bent on siding with the Saudis to meddle in the affair of US boxing? You act like the ******s and Hindus are taking over all of England....Oh wait....ok that's why. My bad!!!

[DClefthook]

Lara will fight (and wash) anyone. Barrios not so much.

Hey Black guess what, PBC + Top Rank can give us undisputed at 160 with Lara Adames and Janibek. Why is everyone mad at that?

[El_Mero]

Again it looks like you're talking and not listening. No one is dis*****g your lineage in North America. Everyone acknowledges that Asiatic tribes crossed the Beringia land bridge (Bering straight) from Asia to N America when the lands were connected. No one disputes that those tribes settled with indigenous tribes of the Americas. Also no one disputes that those combined tribes were conquered by the Spanish Conquistadors and mixed in with Africans which through hundreds of years evolved into what we know today as Mulattos, Mestizos and Creoles. So yes "your" people were out west while blacks and whites were in the east.

So you're correct you can "claim" American continent while we can "claim" United States of America. And let me knock you off your fake azz pedestal about following your bloodline. It is true that I can only trace back to about the late 1700 early 1800s, and so can you. The English "Massas" and the Spanish "Conquistadors" did not keep historical artifacts on enslaved or indigenous tribes because the Europeans did not think we were human so it wasn't important to them. So stop thinking that you can trace your roots back to King Phillipe of Spain. It's a reason why you haven't been able to "see the long forms before the 1600s" because they don't exist you idiot!

That's the ignorance in you kid. Only part of my line is spanish/mex/meztizo. The other half is native. Not mixed with any other race. My mom's dna had ZERO trace of african, ***ish, middle eater, Asian, etc. 99%native of NORTH America, 1% South American. You can try and say what you want, but you ain't traced **** in your kid, foh.

In the end, your people were brought here, mine been living here before white or black, purple or yellow. Human genome wasnt a theory dumb@ss lol. Nation Geographic spent years researching, visiting and gathering dna. Youd be funnier if you werent so ignant...Choassup

[BlackRobb]

Hey Black guess what, PBC + Top Rank can give us undisputed at 160 with Lara Adames and Janibek. Why is everyone mad at that?

I'm not mad. I'm just saying that it should have happened years ago. Why did it take Turki and a pile of cash to compel them?

[boxingitis]

Yes I am enlightened because you should've said "any" before you singled out just PBC. Now we're getting somewhere!

I never said "ONLY" PBC. Is PBC the one with Prime?
I can't say I don't have Prime because Top Rank is not putting up good matches because Top Rank is not with Prime.

[Oldskoolg]

That 10 generations is only my mother's side, Which are a mix of miwok, pomo and chumash, and were here long before euros stepped foot on the west coast. My dads side is spanish/Native/Mestizo and have been in CALIFORNIA since before the U.S. was a colony. That side has treaties, legal documents and other long forms dated b4 the 1600s. I haven't been able to see them for myself but I've seen pictures/copies.

You can "claim" american whatever, but if you cant follow your bloodline like i can, youre just spitting bs. majority of my people were here b4 a white or black man.

your point about pbc/tr is whatever tbh. They basically refused to do business with eachother other than the occasional huge fight(s). Thank Turki for forcing them to come together because it'd be the same ol bs between the 2 had Turki not stepped in. That's facts

I’m a naturalised American, I wasn’t born here, just took several oaths to it and the Constitution in the US Army and state law enforcement. If you now claim more than the 10 generations then so be it, but let us never question the FBA lineage and contribution to this land. Without them there is no USA as we know it. And much of the patents, inventions, culture, economy of the USA is heavily based on their contributions, (unpaid) labour, patents, inventions, war fighting, sports dominance, utter dominance of entertainment that is exported as American culture as a whole.
as for Turki, best thing as for him to come around. He’s destroyed matchroom, turned it into a second rate promotion and displayed how unprofitable it is in the USA, and is a big reason American boxing will now flourish. Bless him.

[SteveM]

No I’m not. We agree Tank could have a better resume.

It felt like Roach was devalued solely because he was fighting Tank. If he moved up to fight any other champion he’d have been given credit as a champion daring to be great against the best in a heavier division.

The fight was better than expected and truly enjoyable. It unexpectedly set up a highly anticipated rematch. Nothing to complain about other than the ref’s mistake that cost Roach the title.

Tank Loma wouldn’t have been a competitive fight when Tank was younger. We all know it. Loma isn’t diminished either. He performed well but got beat in a close fight against Haney.

Yes I think Inoue v Nakatani will be soon but Nakatani has to grow a bit imo. But yeah that is one dight I am eagerly awaiting.

Well, that's kind of true and kind of not. Roach was overlooked by many but for two reasons, one his 'fault' and one not his 'fault' - I believe he had a belt at 130 but I don't believe Roach was THE CHAMP. That was on him. Whereas Tank has a history of pulling up fighters from 130 and stopping them rather than, say unifying at 135.

Nobody gave Fulton at 122 criticism for fighting Inoue when he moved up. That was because INoue was THE CHAMP at 118 - he had cleared that division out. Nobody gave Bivol crap at 175 when Canelo moved up because Canelo had cleaned out 168.

I do think Loma is diminished in the sense that he is a long way past his prime. I do think it would have been a competitive fight 4 /5 years ago but the issue was that it would have been 50-50 or maybe 45-55 in Loma's favour and THAT was why it didn't happen.

[SteveM]

Let me SPLAIN SUMTIN TO YAH Mr Steven. When you and your boxing friends use terms like "North American fighters" or "PBC fighters" or singling out "Al Haymon" you do know that you're not using some type of coded language. We know what you're talking about. You're just not smart enough to cover your tracks. It's no different than the media using terms like "thugs" or "gang****ers". We know whom they're referring to. Have you watched any recent American military movies like BLACK HAWK DOWN or CAPTAIN PHILLIPS when the US soldiers are fighting African militia men and they always refer to them as "skinnys"? You do know that's the N word right? You guys don't even know it because you're so used to saying stoopid shyte like that and no one ever calls you out. That;s why I'm hated by a lot of you because I don't mind calling you out. But besides all that I for the life of me can't understand why you Brits are sooooo against Americans when in real life you follow right behind us in everything we do. When America has covert operations where they send Delta, Seals and Rangers the S.A.S. are right beside them. When our economy goes up we make sure yours does too. When British actors are good enough to crossover they go to HOLLYWOOD not BOLLYWOOD. Boxing is no different. When US boxing thrives then the UK boxing will as well. Why are you guys so hell bent on siding with the Saudis to meddle in the affair of US boxing? You act like the ******s and Hindus are taking over all of England....Oh wait....ok that's why. My bad!!!

you've totally gone off on one - again - rambling on about war movies. Stick to the topic. Too many American fighters are all about protecting their zero and that's why fights don't get made at the time when they should get made - part of that is on the fighters, part of that is their managers and their promoters - and guess what - PBC, TR and GB are those promoters.