Comments Thread For: Top Rank, PBC plotting several cards to keep big fights in U.S.

[The Big Dunn]

I think people want to see good fights, but for Example PBC Tank fight nobodies.
He could have fought Teo after he Beat Loma,
Could have fought Haney after he became Undisputed
Could have fought Loma years ago.
Is not fighting Shakur or Keyshawn.

If they don't make good fights then obviously they will die out.

Dude the last couple of Tank fights have been really good despite not having the opponents most wanted.

At what point do fans judge the quality of the fight they get?

Too many people have selective anger. Loma duck Shakur to fight Kambosos, he gets a pass because of someone he fought before. He ducks Tank this time out and he gets a pass.

I get Tank’s resume should be much better but if you didn’t enjoy the Roach fight ( a champion coming up in weight to fight a champion) just because it wasn’t Loma or Shakur that is silly imo.

[SteveM]

I think people want to see good fights, but for Example PBC Tank fight nobodies.
He could have fought Teo after he Beat Loma,
Could have fought Haney after he became Undisputed
Could have fought Loma years ago.
Is not fighting Shakur or Keyshawn.

If they don't make good fights then obviously they will die out.

its called Floyditis - a disease that many North American fighters succumb to but the main symptom, that of avoiding 50-50 fights, is largely ignored by Belt organizations and the American public.
How ironic that those who hate MAGA are mostly the ones ban-ging the patriotic drum for MABGA - Make American Boxing Great Again

[SteveM]

Dude the last couple of Tank fights have been really good despite not having the opponents most wanted.

At what point do fans judge the quality of the fight they get?

Too many people have selective anger. Loma duck Shakur to fight Kambosos, he gets a pass because of someone he fought before. He ducks Tank this time out and he gets a pass.

I get Tank’s resume should be much better but if you didn’t enjoy the Roach fight ( a champion coming up in weight to fight a champion) just because it wasn’t Loma or Shakur that is silly imo.

You're conflating the fight itself and the match-making. Tank's matchmaking is conservative. The fact he struggled against Roach and so it was s good fight doesn't excuse the fact he was matched with Roach because it was thought to be a 75-25/70-30 type of matchup.
I Would have liked to see Tank fight a prime Loma, not a diminished one. Same goes for any matchmaking. Passing of the torch isn't great for serious fans, just casuals. I'm almost for age classes in boxing to force more competitive fights to be made. Time for Inoue Nakatani is now, not in two years time.

[El_Mero]

What conspiracies did I mention? Africans began arriving as indentured servants in 1619, 400+ years ago. That was with my people, the British. Prior to that they had arrived in places like Florida with the Spanish as explorers, soldiers, translators, etc etc. modern FBAs are a mix of west/southern African with a lesser degree of northern African mix, plus a significant percentage of European mixture, and a small mixture of native mixture in places line Florida, Oklahoma, Georgia, and further on the east coast. This isn’t “eyes only” classified information. If you’re staying your bloodline dates back 10 generations, it has now been at least 16 generations since the arrival of the Jamestown colony servants. There has never been a significant time in which Europeans were in the Americans without the presence of Africans be they Spanish moors, mixed French gentry, or Anglo-servants/enslaved peoples and beyond to modern times.
and that takes us to Al Haymon and the PBC, who with a deal in place to incorporate Arum’s promotion into the fold, looks to have finally put in place an American boxing powerhouse the likes of which we have not seen since the days of Kingvision, Top Rank, Main Events, and Kushner Promotions. Great move by Haymon and Arum. Perhaps we can take AMERICAN boxing back to the 90s

That 10 generations is only my mother's side, Which are a mix of miwok, pomo and chumash, and were here long before euros stepped foot on the west coast. My dads side is spanish/Native/Mestizo and have been in CALIFORNIA since before the U.S. was a colony. That side has treaties, legal documents and other long forms dated b4 the 1600s. I haven't been able to see them for myself but I've seen pictures/copies.

You can "claim" american whatever, but if you cant follow your bloodline like i can, youre just spitting bs. majority of my people were here b4 a white or black man.

your point about pbc/tr is whatever tbh. They basically refused to do business with eachother other than the occasional huge fight(s). Thank Turki for forcing them to come together because it'd be the same ol bs between the 2 had Turki not stepped in. That's facts

[The Big Dunn]

You're conflating the fight itself and the match-making. Tank's matchmaking is conservative. The fact he struggled against Roach and so it was s good fight doesn't excuse the fact he was matched with Roach because it was thought to be a 75-25/70-30 type of matchup.
I Would have liked to see Tank fight a prime Loma, not a diminished one. Same goes for any matchmaking. Passing of the torch isn't great for serious fans, just casuals. I'm almost for age classes in boxing to force more competitive fights to be made. Time for Inoue Nakatani is now, not in two years time.

No I’m not. We agree Tank could have a better resume.

It felt like Roach was devalued solely because he was fighting Tank. If he moved up to fight any other champion he’d have been given credit as a champion daring to be great against the best in a heavier division.

The fight was better than expected and truly enjoyable. It unexpectedly set up a highly anticipated rematch. Nothing to complain about other than the ref’s mistake that cost Roach the title.

Tank Loma wouldn’t have been a competitive fight when Tank was younger. We all know it. Loma isn’t diminished either. He performed well but got beat in a close fight against Haney.

Yes I think Inoue v Nakatani will be soon but Nakatani has to grow a bit imo. But yeah that is one dight I am eagerly awaiting.

[DClefthook]

Ahhhh shyte! I had to go dobsome life shyte for a few hours and look what I had to come back to. OK mother fuqqas gimme a minute.

[Spray_resistant]

These promoters are done and now will be just holding cards with prospects and journeymen, Turkey has taken over the game will his delicious unlimited mouthwatering oil money. This is what happens when you don't adapt and continue a business model stuck in the mid 90s.

[El_Mero]

No I’m not. We agree Tank could have a better resume.

It felt like Roach was devalued solely because he was fighting Tank. If he moved up to fight any other champion he’d have been given credit as a champion daring to be great against the best in a heavier division.

Negative. He was devalued because he was ANOTHER lower weight fighter(s) Wahid brought up. He REFUSES to fight the top title holders in his division and although his fanboy suck him off, real boxing fans are calling bs to his picking and choosing.

[DClefthook]

These promoters are done and now will be just holding cards with prospects and journeymen, Turkey has taken over the game will his delicious unlimited mouthwatering oil money. This is what happens when you don't adapt and continue a business model stuck in the mid 90s.

"Delicious unlimited mouthwatering" ???? WTF ?.?

[DClefthook]

I'm going to responding to some of these hilarious azz posts but first let me say this. Do you guys remember when you were younger and you and your buddy was arguing over something and he swore up and down he was right until you showed him irrefutable evidence that you were right and he was wrong. And then he didn't want to talk to you for a few days and had nothing to say but mad gibberish shyte? That's all some of you guys are doing now. All of you PBC haters were Dazn dykeriders when they came out even though we told you it was going to fail and the best we could hope for to boost boxing's profile was for Al and Bob to join on the same network. Remember how I've been telling you that that wasn't going to happen. Well now it's starting g to sink in and you guys are talking mad gibberish right now. Haha. You're all butt hurt that Y.D.K.S.A.B. business. I am laughing so funking hard so now I'm really going to start talking .e shyte. Hahahaha