TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[paulf]

He's a better boxer, but pacs s better fighter.

Not in the ring, apparently.

[The Big Dunn]

Well, he arguably best floyd with a bad shoulder, so probably proved pac s a better fighter. Being champ in 8 weight classes probably show it too as well as having longer career

He had a chance to show it in the ring and couldn’t.. Stop it dude.

[The Big Dunn]

how does a fighter like Floyd who even went and hired ariza, needed IV for dehydration from cutting weight?

So you are not able to show how a Floyd fans opinion impacts his health. More faulty logic applied by you just to denigrate Floyd beating Manny by such a wide margin.

Instead you pivot to question no one can answer so you can again use faulty logic.

[djtmal]

Floyd is the best at cherrypicking the exact time to fight a guy

Normally when they are shopworn if its anybody good. You can bet on that

[The Big Dunn]

floyd doesn't drink or do drugs. Floyd is always in the gym working on his craft. I mean for years, that;s all we would hear from y'all.

now yall is saying Floyd walks around at 170??

So you are unable to show how what a Floyd fan posts impacts his actual health. More faulty and false logic used by you just to diminish Floyd’s win over Manny.

I didn’t post anything about his walking around weight so stop pivoting to what other people posted because you can’t rationally argue anything a poster says determines or impacts Floyd’s actual health.

[The Big Dunn]

We do know. Pretending we don't know is being overtly and deliberately dishonest.

He was 150.5 for the 30 day weigh in before the Pacquao fight. So, 30 days out he was 150.5 lbs.

We know he weighed 149 for the 30 day weigh in vs Guererro, 150 in the ring vs Canelo, then 148 in the ring vs Maidana 1 and 150 for the 30 day weigh in vs Maidana 2. We KNOW his weight.

So 4 fights in a row we know he was anywhere between 148-150 and then for Pacquaio, far and beyond the biggest fight of his career and probably the biggest fight in the history of the sport, we don't know his weight and we're going to act like he had to suddenly cut substantial amounts of weight to the point of severe dehydration even though we KNOW he was 150.5 30 days out? It's a silly argument and goes against a plethora of data.

It's clutching at straws on steroids at this point. There is not one reason Floyd would need an IV of that nature. None, zero.




Well, not really because he didn't even request the TUE until after the fact and was granted it 3 weeks later, which is not allowed. He didn't inform the NSAC commission, which is not allowed. And he administered the IV in his house, which is not allowed. In fact, USADA are not even allowed to grant a TUE in Las Vegas in general, so I don't know why that was allowed either.

The whole thing is both extremely shady and extremely suspect and it all points to one thing.

The key is biggest fight of his career and biggest in the sport. You don’t think he trained harder and longer for this fight?

[djtmal]

So you are unable to show how what a Floyd fan posts impacts his actual health. More faulty and false logic used by you just to diminish Floyd’s win over Manny.

I didn’t posts anything about his walking around weight so stop pivoting to what other people posted because you can’t rationally argue anything a poster says determines or impacts Floyd’s actual health.

There's more than enough proof here to label him extremely suspect

[IronDanHamza]

The key is biggest fight of his career and biggest in the sport. You don’t think he trained harder and longer for this fight?

I think Floyd is one of the hardest trainers ever so no I don’t think he would train any harder for Pacquaio than he would anyone else. That’s Floyd’s M.O, outwork everyone else.

Why are we ignoring that we KNOW his weight? We KNOW he was 150.5 lbs 30 days out from the Pacquaio fight, don’t we? That’s a fact not an opinion. So we KNOW he didn’t cut any weight for that fight, nor any of his WW fights. So this needs to be established and not pretend like we don’t know when we categorically do know.

So with the established, what logical reason could anyone possibly come to whereby Floyd needs a banned IV a day before the fight? I will tell you, there isn’t one, it doesn’t exist.

I think this needs to acknowledged, if Pacquaio was caught using that exact same IV I’m quite sure with the standard he’s held to he would be considered 100% guilty of what is at the absolute least extremely suspect behaviour.

This doesn’t prove Floyd used PED’s but let me know tell you, it strongly points to it. There’s no other logical way to look at it if we are to be honest about the situation.

[djtmal]

He had a chance to show it in the ring and couldn’t.. Stop it dude.

Lets not fool ourselves here. Manny was out of his prime, and the fight itself was inconclusive at best.

Floyd did enough to survive.

[The Big Dunn]

Lets not fool ourselves here. Manny was out of his prime, and the fight itself was inconclusive at best.

Floyd did enough to survive.

The fight wasn’t inconclusive. It was a a wide win.

Manny being out of his prime is on him as a man. We of course know he wasn’t that shot. Just a convenient excuse for his pole smoker fans.

Lets just be honest-Had he had agreed to a cutoff when the offer was on the table and not once Floyd got tired of his shenanigans and refusal, had he taken the $40 mil (no ppv) instead of a rematch with JMM for $28 mil ( majority ppv) or had he not made the highly questionable decision to let his promoter’s son in law give him stitches once they found out Nevada had extended Floyd’s jail start date so they could fight, the fight would’ve happened in Manny’s prime.

He kept finding excuses for it not to happen. Why? Because he knew it was a bad matchup for Manny, something losers like you tacitly admit when you whine about how small and shorter he is compared to Floyd.