TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[The Big Dunn]

It doesn't make sense for someone who doesn't cut weight to be dehydrated to the point he needs an IV of 750ml, which, is banned and it's banned for good reason.

Floyd doesn't need to reduce water intake at all throughout camp, so severe dehydration is as close to nil as you can get and nothing one glass of water wouldn't fix.

It's not adding up in any capacity.

Again I get your point but we don’t know how much he weighed and how much he had to cut.

Its not adding up because we dont have all the necessary info to solve it.

[IceTrayDaGang]

So we agree your logic is faulty. Good.

More faulty logic. What Floyd fans say doesn’t in any way impact what actually happens with his health. All those things are true as far I am aware. Since when does those things prevent dehydration? Come on dude.

Floyd didn’t use an illegal IV. He used an IV for dehydration according to him, not his fans.

Yes, dehydration happens to all types of athletes. What medical information do you have that shows any of the things you listed prevents dehydration.

wrong. you took floyd's words and say it's true... but when it comes to other fighters, you say that they are lying. see, this is the problem with you.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Again I get your point but we don’t know how much he weighed and how much he had to cut.

Its not adding up because we dont have all the necessary info to solve it.

exactly, YOU dont know. so how are you so sure of your claims.

[The Big Dunn]

no, not exactly.. maybe see the thread title? and i can say the same for you. you are here DEFENDIND floyd for accusations that YOU dont agree.... hmmm like what the pac fans is doing here. so what's the problem?

I’m not defending Floyd from anything. I am just pointing out the facts that a known liar is omitting.

Nothing I posted was false.

Floyd doesn’t need defending. He got a TUE.

The matter is decided other than fans of Manny who, as I stated before, will latch on to anything to try and discredit Floyd’s lopsided win over Manny.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Again I get your point but we don’t know how much he weighed and how much he had to cut.

Its not adding up because we dont have all the necessary info to solve it.

but yall say floyd is a small guy... walking weight never over 150. why would floyd need to cut? LOL!!!

[IceTrayDaGang]

I’m not defending Floyd from anything. I am just pointing out the facts that a known liar is omitting.

Nothing I posted was false.

Floyd doesn’t need defending. He got a TUE.

The matter is decided other than fans of Manny who, as I stated before, will latch on to anything to try and discredit Floyd’s lopsided win over Manny.

show me a positive test from manny? TC is voicing his opinion which pac fans dont agree.... same shiiet you are doing here defending floyd from accusations from pac fans that YOU dont agree.

[The Big Dunn]

He's a better boxer, but pacs s better fighter.

He sure didn’t show it in the ring against Floyd.

The sport is called boxing. Floyd is far more skilled and talented at boxing than Manny.

Manny punched a lot. Until he fought great boxers like Floyd and JMM.

[The Big Dunn]

Big Dunn said this like it was really legit

I have a good idea how that conversation went:

Floyd: riing

Manny: hello.

Floyd: Manny this Floyd. Listen. Like I said before. I think you a helluva fighter. I want to make the fight. I will wire you 20 million now and 20 million after the fight no ppv

Manny: click

Floyd: riiing. The number you have dialed has been changed or disconnected

Stop making excuses for Manny turning down the fight. He and his team were scared to lose. Just that simple.

You criticize Floyd for turning down Margs to fight Baldomir for more money.

You defend Manny for turning down Floyd and fighting JMM for less money.

You have 0 credibility.

[IronDanHamza]

Again I get your point but we don’t know how much he weighed and how much he had to cut.

Well, we know he's 150 lbs though, right? That's well established and can be backed up by a long list of data so I think it's fair to say we absolutely do know what he weighed.

We know categorically that Mayweather doesn't cut weight, we know that. We know he walks around at 150 lbs and can make 147 lbs in his sleep. It's dishonest to move the goalposts here and pretend that isn't the case to try and make sense of a non-sensical incident and explanation.

Its not adding up because we dont have all the necessary info to solve it.

It's not adding up because it doesn't make even the first bit of sense. We have all the info that we need to know it doesn't add up.

There is zero logical justification for Mayweather needing a 750ml IV. None.

The fact he used this illegal IV, and the very shady ongoings around it, is extremely suspect and only really points to one thing. Does it prove PED use? No. But it is extremely suspect at best and I think anyone who works in this field like myself can decipher why this was being used.

[The Big Dunn]

Well, we know he's 150 lbs though, right? That's well established and can be backed up by a long list of data so I think it's fair to say we absolutely do know what he weighed.

We know categorically that Mayweather doesn't cut weight, we know that. We know he walks around at 150 lbs and can make 147 lbs in his sleep. It's dishonest to move the goalposts here and pretend that isn't the case to try and make sense of a non-sensical incident and explanation.




It's not adding up because it doesn't make even the first bit of sense. We have all the info that we need to know it doesn't add up.

There is zero logical justification for Mayweather needing a 750ml IV. None.

The fact he used this illegal IV, and the very shady ongoings around it, is extremely suspect and only really points to one thing. Does it prove PED use? No. But it is extremely suspect at best and I think anyone who works in this field like myself can decipher why this was being used.

I don’t know what he weighed before the Manny fight. If we know that specifically, then we know if he had to cut weight.

We do know that most of his career he didn’t need to cut weight. That is true.