Floyd Rewatching Marquez-Pacquiao IV

[IronDanHamza]

but you said you dont believe manny is on peds. only if we accuse marquez. we never said marquez was clean. where as for you, you said pac is clean but you get triggered when other accuse marquez. so is pac clean to you or not? because if he's clean then it shouldnt matter what others is saying about marquez! #message

I didn't say Pacquaio was clean. You've gone ahead AGAIN and made that up.

I didn't say he was clean, or dirty. I said there is no evidence that he used PED's which is a fact.

Just like there is no evidence Marquez used PEDs either.

What I believe about both fighters is irrelevant.

I'm pointing out the double standard and inconsistency in the argument being made. Your ability to grasp basic concepts is extremely poor. I would consider going to your local library and picking up a children's book.

[IceTrayDaGang]

You're not even making one bit of sense.

I have never accused Pacquaio of being dirty.

I never even mentioned Floyd so I'm bemused as to why you've randomly including him in this conversation but if you'd like to open that conversation then that's fine.

All 3 of them, Floyd, Marquez and Pacquaio have worked with people linked to PEDs and none of which is evidence any of them used PEDs.

Floyd however was caught using a Banned IV, so, there is more reason to believe he used PED's than the other two.

Any other random fighters you'd like to insert for no reason?

It doesn't matter how many fighters you include, it still won't change the fact that working with someone linked to PED's is not evidence that they used PEDs.

1. exactly, you never accused Manny of being dirty ONLY if we accused Marquez.

2. I never said YOU brought up Floyd. I brought up Floyd since you brought up ariza to try and say if Marquez is dirty for hooking up with memo then so is Manny for working with ariza!!

I never said Marquez and Floyd are clean fighters and then changed my mind when my feelings are hurt!! where as for YOU, you said Manny is not on peds BUT when we accuse Marquez then you get all emotional, then you change your stance on Manny. So which one is it?

[IceTrayDaGang]

I didn't say Pacquaio was clean. You've gone ahead AGAIN and made that up.

I didn't say he was clean, or dirty. I said there is no evidence that he used PED's which is a fact.

Just like there is no evidence Marquez used PEDs either.

What I believe about both fighters is irrelevant.

I'm pointing out the double standard and inconsistency in the argument being made. Your ability to grasp basic concepts is extremely poor. I would consider going to your local library and picking up a children's book.

you said you don't believe Manny was on peds and you never accused Manny of being on peds... so now?

[IceTrayDaGang]

Show me where I have accused Pacquaio of taking PEDs. There is no demonstable evidence Pacquaio has taken any PEDs.

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[IceTrayDaGang]

Who is "ya'll"? You're just making it up.

I've never accused Pacquaio of anything and definitely not asserted it like you baselessly are here with Marquez.

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[IceTrayDaGang]

Again, who is "ya'll" I don't know who "ya'll" is.

I have never accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs so it's a non argument you are making.

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[IronDanHamza]

1. exactly, you never accused Manny of being dirty ONLY if we accused Marquez.

Nope. Never accused Pacquaio of being dirty at all. With or without Marquez.

2. I never said YOU brought up Floyd. I brought up Floyd since you brought up ariza to try and say if Marquez is dirty for hooking up with memo then so is Manny for working with ariza!!

Ok? And your point is what?

I never said Marquez and Floyd are clean fighters and then changed my mind when my feelings are hurt!! where as for YOU, you said Manny is not on peds BUT when we accuse Marquez then you get all emotional, then you change your stance on Manny. So which one is it?

Changed my mind where? I haven't changed my stance on Pacquaio at any point.

My stance is extremely clear, simple, and shouldn't be difficult to understand.

I'll put it out nice and slow for you so you might understand and avoid this embarrassing confusion;

There is no evidence that Pacquaio, or Marquez, have ever taken PEDs.

Someone working with someone linked to PED use, is NOT, evidence that someone has used PEDs. That goes for Marquez, Pacquaio, or anyone else who has ever worked with someone who has links to PEDs.

And, if you are to deem a fighter, it doesn't matter who that fighter is, a "drug cheat" on the basis that they have worked with someone linked to PEDs, then, you HAVE TO do the same thing for every other fighter that has also worked with someone linked to PEDs.

It is one, or the other. You cannot have both.

I literally cannot make this easier for you to understand. Hopefully you get there now little buddy.

[IronDanHamza]

you said you don't believe Manny was on peds

I have never said that.

and you never accused Manny of being on peds... so now?

Right, because I haven't accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs. I don't know if he was on PEDs.

All I do know is there is no evidence that Pacquaio has ever taken PEDs.

I'm struggling to understand how you aren't comprehending this.

[IronDanHamza]

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Yes? What are you trying to show me?

I have never accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs, as there is no evidence that he has taken any PEDs.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Nope. Never accused Pacquaio of being dirty at all. With or without Marquez.



Ok? And your point is what?



Changed my mind where? I haven't changed my stance on Pacquaio at any point.

My stance is extremely clear, simple, and shouldn't be difficult to understand.

I'll put it out nice and slow for you so you might understand and avoid this embarrassing confusion;

There is no evidence that Pacquaio, or Marquez, have ever taken PEDs.

Someone working with someone linked to PED use, is NOT, evidence that someone has used PEDs. That goes for Marquez, Pacquaio, or anyone else who has ever worked with someone who has links to PEDs.

And, if you are to deem a fighter, it doesn't matter who that fighter is, a "drug cheat" on the basis that they have worked with someone linked to PEDs, then, you HAVE TO do the same thing for every other fighter that has also worked with someone linked to PEDs.

It is one, or the other. You cannot have both.

I literally cannot make this easier for you to understand. Hopefully you get there now little buddy.

You asked why Floyd was brought into this!! i explained because you brought up ariza. now what's my point?

once again, ariza was never caught and convicted. Pac fired ariza before the Rios fight. how is Pac linked to someone who has worked with peds?

you said Manny is not on peds but if we accuse Marquez then we have to accuse Manny.