The desperation for Beterbiev-Bivol III next highlights Turki’s lack of understanding of the sport.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    watch a full Bena fight on half speed

    Bena is good but a comfortable distance from great

    Bivol and Artur are great fighters

    There’s a 2.5 levels difference that separates Bivol ahead of Bena

    left hook happy Bena doesn’t have a stylistic edge to close the 2.5 levels gap.​ Bivol isn’t susceptible for lead hooks

    What I find odd about Turki’s fixation on a trilogy is Turki had Bivol winning the first fight 7-5

    Turki is on the same page as most that Bivol beat Artur twice

    two wins in a row over the same opponent would make a trilogy unnecessary

    but fight 1’s judges failed. Per the rules of scoring boxing round by round clean punching takes precedence over aggression

    because fight 1 judges fumbled and scored the decision to the wrong fighter we now have demand for a trilogy. The demand most strongly fueled by MuhammadBros
    Disagree with almost everything you said.

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      #12
      Originally posted by famicommander

      Beterbiev deserves his rematch while he's still somewhat close to his top level. He had a long reign (October 2019 through February 2025) and the light heavyweight title is the oldest active lineage in boxing right now, stretching back unbroken to Pascal v Dawson in 2010. Another six months could make all the difference between another competitive fight and a complete wash in Bivol's favor. Let Benavidez blast out the IBF mandatory challenger in the meantime so that they don't end up giving their belt to the winner of Tyler Eifert vs Connor Wallace or some other awful nonsense.
      Beterbiev can still get the trilogy which I agree he deserves. I just don’t see why it should be immediate, I’m bored of Beterbiev vs Bivol tbh. Would much rather see something fresh.

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        #13
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        Beterbiev can still get the trilogy which I agree he deserves. I just don’t see why it should be immediate
        Because he's 40. It's that simple. Who knows how many more fights he has before his abilities drop off a cliff? It would be criminal to make him waste a training camp and a fight on some nobody. Especially with how often he's been hurt in camps.

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          #14
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Because he's 40. It's that simple. Who knows how many more fights he has before his abilities drop off a cliff? It would be criminal to make him waste a training camp and a fight on some nobody. Especially with how often he's been hurt in camps.
          What’s a more interesting fight to you: Bivol-Benavidez or Bivol-Beterbiev III? That’s the way I look at it.

          I don’t think either of the first two fights were all that entertaining too. Largely due to negative tactics from Bivol.

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            #15
            Originally posted by famicommander
            Beterbiev deserves his rematch while he's still somewhat close to his top level. He had a long reign (October 2019 through February 2025) and the light heavyweight title is the oldest active lineage in boxing right now, stretching back unbroken to Pascal v Dawson in 2010. Another six months could make all the difference between another competitive fight and a complete wash in Bivol's favor. Let Benavidez blast out the IBF mandatory challenger in the meantime so that they don't end up giving their belt to the winner of Tyler Eifert vs Connor Wallace or some other awful nonsense.
            Tiger Paw Artur deserves his immediate rematch

            being 40 he could have just retired off of the suspect decision in fight 1 that went his way

            But Artur was honorable and gave Bivol an immediate rematch

            In the rematch Artur took 4 rounds in a competitive bout and won the final round too

            Artur earned an immediate rubber match

            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            Disagree with almost everything you said.
            let start with what you see in Benavidez that makes him very good or light great then

            I believe Bena is ranging from the level of Keith Thurman to Miguel Cotto

            Originally posted by famicommander

            Because he's 40. It's that simple. Who knows how many more fights he has before his abilities drop off a cliff? It would be criminal to make him waste a training camp and a fight on some nobody. Especially with how often he's been hurt in camps.
            Allah keep Tiger Paw Artur healthy throughout his training camp then

            this guy gets injured again and there might be no trilogy. He’ll just retire

            I guess if he gets injured while training again there wouldn’t be an immediate trilogy

            but given the short notice Bivol would then fight a Mr nobody not Benavidez

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              #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              What’s a more interesting fight to you: Bivol-Benavidez or Bivol-Beterbiev III? That’s the way I look at it.

              I don’t think either of the first two fights were all that entertaining too. Largely due to negative tactics from Bivol.
              then there’s a high Ben would disappoint you VS Bivol

              Ben threw 150 punches less per fight against his good friend Morrell & Gvozdyk compared to Tiger Paw Artur’s output in the Bivol fights​

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                #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                Tiger Paw Artur deserves his immediate rematch

                being 40 he could have just retired off of the suspect decision in fight 1 that went his way

                But Artur was honorable and gave Bivol an immediate rematch

                In the rematch Artur took 4 rounds in a competitive bout and won the final round too

                Artur earned an immediate rubber match

                let start with what you see in Benavidez that makes him very good or light great then

                I believe Bena is ranging from the level of Keith Thurman to Miguel Cotto

                Allah keep Tiger Paw Artur healthy throughout his training camp then

                this guy gets injured again and there might be no trilogy. He’ll just retire

                I guess if he gets injured while training again there wouldn’t be an immediate trilogy

                but given the short notice Bivol would then fight a Mr nobody not Benavidez
                Who’s alt are you? GrandpaBernard I’m thinking…

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  Who’s alt are you? GrandpaBernard I’m thinking…
                  I am longtime boxing fan from boxing 24

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by famicommander
                    Beterbiev doesn't have many fights left at the top level. It's now or never for the trilogy, he's on the wrong side of 40. Bivol is 34, Benavidez is 28. They can wait another 6 months.
                    Then it's never for the trilogy, the fights were not that good. You really think Bivol will go from 3 fights with beterbiev directly to Benavidez? and if beterbiev wins, at 41, it will be a gamble with his injuries. The 3rd fight will look exactly the same as the previous ones. Since when is there an obligation for a trilogy?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Oracle01

                      Then it's never for the trilogy, the fights were not that good. You really think Bivol will go from 3 fights with beterbiev directly to Benavidez? and if beterbiev wins, at 41, it will be a gamble with his injuries. The 3rd fight will look exactly the same as the previous ones. Since when is there an obligation for a trilogy?
                      Bena Callum would be a good fight that surprises everyone with how competitive it is​

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