Comments Thread For: Everything we know so far about the new TKO boxing league - from payments to potential problems

[TMLT87]

The same two posters as usual citing that this is a race war instead of a takeover of all
Seven pages to repeat Thé same thing over and over , with the old guy cheerleader cheering on

TKO is after everyone’s money not just one ethnic club

Talk about making a huge story about nothing and trying to ring it about racism
The last I saw , the UFC was made up of all kinds

Green is green no matter where it comes from

Yep, mentally stuck 20 years ago when it comes to their perception of what demographics participate in/watch the UFC.

[JohnnyCan]

Yep, mentally stuck 20 years ago when it comes to their perception of what demographics participate in/watch the UFC.

They are stuck hundreds of years in their view of life and thirty years with US ruling boxing. Can’t take their posts seriously.

[Bob]

Remember boys & girls Tko has a nf deal to show the wwe & they're discussing a deal to show the ufc exclusively on nf now the espn deal is almost over.
Now imagine a boxing league on nf with no ppv & with Dana in charge he'll pay extra for great performances to advertise the new league. The casuals will eat it up.
That's how the ufc exploded, one great fight between Griffin & Bonnar rip.

[low blows]

I think that Turki/Dana will just end up buying the various rival promoters e.g. Matchroom, Top Rank etc just like Dana did with Pride & Strikeforce in the UFC. However, I think that will be their LAST move after signing all the promising talent to back them into a corner and lower the price.

You can't buy out every promoter in boxing. Maybe they could buy out all of the major American and British promoters but Asia has plenty of promoters, Australia, Germany, Russia etc.

You could argue that when a promoter from countries not GB or the US wants to make real money for his fighter he needs to come to GB, the US or now Saudi Arabia but controlling anything but the equivalent of the "Champions League" of boxing isn't possible.

[kafkod]

Green is green no matter where it comes from

You have to be really, really dumb to not understand that. And yes, the 2 guys you are talking about really are that dumb.

[Sheikh]

Top rank and pbc are soon about to lose thier network deals

[Mase1965]

Yeah I'm reading the articles and it looks like Dana's going to try and replicate what he did with the UFC for his boxing outfit, which is not going to work because the boxers and their teams know their worth (and we've all seen how Dana White ripped off his MMA fighters).

Turki and Dana may want only 1 belt but that's not going to work either because the WBC and WBA have too much history and prestige world-wide, and all the young fighters coming up love those belts and dream of winning them. (4 belts are too much, Ibf and wbo should be scrapped)

Dana downsizing on weight classes is a s t u p id idea, the weight classes we have now are fine and imo we actually need more, even though it's an unpopular opinion. The lower weight classes are popular outside the U.S. On a side note, for anyone managing payments or ticketing for sports events like this, paymentgateways.org is a great resource to understand the best options worldwide and ensure smooth transactions for your business.

The new outfit will make some noise for a while and then just become another cookie cutter boxing promotions. It's too bad Turki didn't hookup with actual true boxing heads instead of a greedy, dumass like Dana.

I agree with your take. Dana’s model works in MMA largely because of the structure of the sport and the way fighters are managed, but boxing is a whole different ecosystem. The legacy belts like WBC and WBA carry enormous prestige, and fighters care about them more than any new promotion.

Also, trying to consolidate belts or downsize weight classes ignores the global nature of boxing—fans and fighters in other countries value those lower weight divisions a lot, and there’s a strong tradition behind each one. Dana might generate hype for a while, but without respecting the history and the stakeholders in boxing, it’ll likely fizzle out into just another generic promotion.

Turki could have benefited from consulting with experienced boxing promoters and insiders instead of relying on someone who only knows the UFC playbook. Boxing isn’t MMA, and you can’t force the sport to fit a mold that worked elsewhere.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree with your take. Dana’s model works in MMA largely because of the structure of the sport and the way fighters are managed, but boxing is a whole different ecosystem. The legacy belts like WBC and WBA carry enormous prestige, and fighters care about them more than any new promotion.

Also, trying to consolidate belts or downsize weight classes ignores the global nature of boxing—fans and fighters in other countries value those lower weight divisions a lot, and there’s a strong tradition behind each one. Dana might generate hype for a while, but without respecting the history and the stakeholders in boxing, it’ll likely fizzle out into just another generic promotion.

Turki could have benefited from consulting with experienced boxing promoters and insiders instead of relying on someone who only knows the UFC playbook. Boxing isn’t MMA, and you can’t force the sport to fit a mold that worked elsewhere.

It works in Mixed Martial Arts, because? Mixed Martial Arts is not a Global sport, and did not really exist before Dana White and his boys created the UFC.

Boxing is a global sport, and has existed for many centuries 'and it will exist and continue to function, whether Dana White, Eddie Hearn, Frank Warren and all the world's boxing promoters are involved in the game'.

Franchise Sports Models, in my opinion? Will not work or take over any existing global sports 'they tried to do it in soccer, with the European Super League and it backfired. And I think a similar eventuality could happen in boxing'.

Note: As I have stated many times before? The TKO boxing league, will most likely only attract domestic level fighters, rookie fighters and fighters in the latter stages of their careers. Dana White is going to then have the creative power, to market and promote those fighters as the best combat sports athletes in the World. Because that is what they do in the UFC, they refer to their champions as World Champions, even though in the sports of mixed martial arts there are no World Champions. Only Franchise in house Champions, who have only out competed a few hundred fighters'.

When I was in high school, the toughest kids school all of us 'were competing against a larger active talent pool, then the fighters in the UFC. And my high school was not a giant school in terms of number. At any given time the UFC only has a few hundred fighters active, and that is encompassing all weight divisions'.

Boxing in comparison to the UFC is a vast and colossal sport 'with a completely giant talent pool. Francis Ngannou was a great Champion but? During his entire combat sports career, has only ever fought two World Champions. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

The reality is? The UFC and Mixed Martial Arts, is not a Global Sports in the same way Boxing, Rugby, Track and Field Athletes and Tennis are 'It is a very well run, and popular sports franchise. It is popular like the way EastEnders and Coronation street is, but it is not really technically a Global Sport'.

To conclude: Dana White has never really had any competition during his career 'in the same Eddie Hearn, Frank Warren all the European and American based promoters have. And I don't think he has ever dealt with an audience as critical as hardcore boxing fans'.

Nevertheless I think the TKO boxing league will do fine 'but it will become apparent to the informed viewers real quick, that it is not Elite level boxing. As I can only really see currently right now domestic level fighters, rookie fighters and fighters in the latter stages of their careers being active in the league. They will all be marketed and promoted as the best fighters in the world, but we will all be aware that? Boxing is a genuine legitimate Global sport, and fighters exist outside a franchise sports league' etc.