Canelos first 6 title fights

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Mathew Hatton-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Ryan Rhodes-solid top 10(ring)

Alfonso gomez-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Kermit cintron-lost 2 of 3

Mosley-unranked 40 years old and 0-2-1 in last 3

Josesito lopez-147 pounder moving up

I feel like tank davis took canelos blueprint and just extended it for his entire career. Let's give canelo credit for snapping out of his bum parade but he seems to have gone back to the classics after benavidez took his soul so he's back to the bums and little men. Can you think of a worse 6 fight title run from a heavily promoted star?

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Mathew Hatton-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Ryan Rhodes-solid top 10(ring)

Alfonso gomez-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Kermit cintron-lost 2 of 3

Mosley-unranked 40 years old and 0-2-1 in last 3

Josesito lopez-147 pounder moving up

I feel like tank davis took canelos blueprint and just extended it for his entire career. Let's give canelo credit for snapping out of his bum parade but he seems to have gone back to the classics after benavidez took his soul so he's back to the bums and little men. Can you think of a worse 6 fight title run from a heavily promoted star?

When you pull something like this out of context , context being the whole career, just to get a balanced perspective other than trying to hate on a guy.

For instance, you could say he is following the Manny blueprint only better because he didn't get stopped and saved by the ref in his first 6 title fights

Gabrial Mira 7 losses
Sangsurat Lost TKO
Jamili 5 losses
Arnel Barotillo 50% losing resume
Chae is undefeated with a laughable resume
Nedal Hussain was saved from a KO loss by a corrupt referee that admitted it on camera.

It's easy to pull BS out of context and make it stand alone if you wanna hate on a fighter because every great has periods of struggle and even losses, but if you look at their entire resume in context, they are great fighters.

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Mathew Hatton-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Ryan Rhodes-solid top 10(ring)

Alfonso gomez-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Kermit cintron-lost 2 of 3

Mosley-unranked 40 years old and 0-2-1 in last 3

Josesito lopez-147 pounder moving up

I feel like tank davis took canelos blueprint and just extended it for his entire career. Let's give canelo credit for snapping out of his bum parade but he seems to have gone back to the classics after benavidez took his soul so he's back to the bums and little men. Can you think of a worse 6 fight title run from a heavily promoted star?

- - Gomez had numerous fights over 147 and is listed superwelt in Boxrec

Mosely previous lineal fights start with Mayorga, Margarita, l'l floydy, Sergi Mora, and Pacquiao, Canelo was 21 coming up from a 15yr 140lber.

Citron was 3-2-1 over his last 6 fights.

Josesito was an emergency replacement.

Yeah, Rhodes solid

Me thinks thou dost protest too much...yeah

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Mathew Hatton-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Ryan Rhodes-solid top 10(ring)

Alfonso gomez-unranked 147 pounder moving up

Kermit cintron-lost 2 of 3

Mosley-unranked 40 years old and 0-2-1 in last 3

Josesito lopez-147 pounder moving up

I feel like tank davis took canelos blueprint and just extended it for his entire career. Let's give canelo credit for snapping out of his bum parade but he seems to have gone back to the classics after benavidez took his soul so he's back to the bums and little men. Can you think of a worse 6 fight title run from a heavily promoted star?

ALL top fighters have done the same as canelo!!! canelo is following the blueprint of the fighters that came before him!!! fans just want a fighter to keep fighting the best fighters one after another... what's the point of working hard to get to where canelo is at if he cant call his own shot? that's the whole point of putting the work in early so you can enjoy the fruits later!! if you worked your way up to a CEO position, you are not gonna be busting your ass off like when you were an entry level position.

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When you pull something like this out of context , context being the whole career, just to get a balanced perspective other than trying to hate on a guy.

For instance, you could say he is following the Manny blueprint only better because he didn't get stopped and saved by the ref in his first 6 title fights

Gabrial Mira 7 losses
Sangsurat Lost TKO
Jamili 5 losses
Arnel Barotillo 50% losing resume
Chae is undefeated with a laughable resume
Nedal Hussain was saved from a KO loss by a corrupt referee that admitted it on camera.

It's easy to pull BS out of context and make it stand alone if you wanna hate on a fighter because every great has periods of struggle and even losses, but if you look at their entire resume in context, they are great fighters.

Daggum always does his disappearing act what made to look like the brain dead fool that he is

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When you pull something like this out of context , context being the whole career, just to get a balanced perspective other than trying to hate on a guy.

For instance, you could say he is following the Manny blueprint only better because he didn't get stopped and saved by the ref in his first 6 title fights

Gabrial Mira 7 losses
Sangsurat Lost TKO
Jamili 5 losses
Arnel Barotillo 50% losing resume
Chae is undefeated with a laughable resume
Nedal Hussain was saved from a KO loss by a corrupt referee that admitted it on camera.

It's easy to pull BS out of context and make it stand alone if you wanna hate on a fighter because every great has periods of struggle and even losses, but if you look at their entire resume in context, they are great fighters.

manny literally beat the ring champ in his very first title fight so thats an automatic fail for you right off the bat. manny didnt fight for a vacant title against welterweight mathew frickin hatton. are you kidding? why did you omit that? oh yeah because it blows up your entire argument.

the point is canelo was matched super soft for marketing purposes. canelo is essentially a nepo-boxer. out of all the people to try and compare him to you choose the guy who is literally the opposite? a guy who came from nowhere to beat the #1 guy. i dont even know anymore...

and if you want to look at mannys first 6 real title fights they were against the ring champion, 2 easy defenses, he got ko'd, his next legit title fight was against the #2 ranked guy at 122, then he had a unification fight at 122.

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Daggum always does his disappearing act what made to look like the brain dead fool that he is

he compared beating the ring champ to beating mathew hatton and you took his side lol. im brain dead? its getting bad out here...

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ALL top fighters have done the same as canelo!!! canelo is following the blueprint of the fighters that came before him!!! fans just want a fighter to keep fighting the best fighters one after another... what's the point of working hard to get to where canelo is at if he cant call his own shot? that's the whole point of putting the work in early so you can enjoy the fruits later!! if you worked your way up to a CEO position, you are not gonna be busting your ass off like when you were an entry level position.

except thats not true? some fighters do this yes, and its not a good thing. no fighter is above criticism. i wouldt call mathew hatton and a bunch of flops and tiny fighters working hard but ok sure thing. he manufactured his way to the top. he was an industry plant essentially. good fighter no doubt as we found out later but just a funny way to get to the top. we shouldnt have to wonder is this guy good or not? a guy like wilder tried the same strategy and he completely flopped

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- - Gomez had numerous fights over 147 and is listed superwelt in Boxrec

Mosely previous lineal fights start with Mayorga, Margarita, l'l floydy, Sergi Mora, and Pacquiao, Canelo was 21 coming up from a 15yr 140lber.

Citron was 3-2-1 over his last 6 fights.

Josesito was an emergency replacement.

Yeah, Rhodes solid

Me thinks thou dost protest too much...yeah

The fight was suppose to be for Victor Ortiz but he lost to Joselito and he got the shot.

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- - Gomez had numerous fights over 147 and is listed superwelt in Boxrec

Mosely previous lineal fights start with Mayorga, Margarita, l'l floydy, Sergi Mora, and Pacquiao, Canelo was 21 coming up from a 15yr 140lber.

Citron was 3-2-1 over his last 6 fights.

Josesito was an emergency replacement.

Yeah, Rhodes solid

Me thinks thou dost protest too much...yeah

you are being way too generous to canelo. hatton was a ww and not good. gomez was fighting at ww at the time and he wasnt good. mosley hadnt won a fight in more than 3 years and was also moving up from ww. cintron lost 2 of 3 with his last fight being at 149. joseito was a ww and had more than 2 months to prepare for the fight. thats not an emergency replacement.

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rhodes was the only legit 154 pounder and the only guy ranked in the top 10 by ring. decent fight but thats a pretty laughable title run. a wilder run dare i say.