Comments Thread For: Mauricio Lara receives two-year ban for doping violation

[ShoulderRoll]

From 2023? Only now being addressed in 2025?

[TheOneAboveAll]

Good. I dislike this guy

[tokon]

[QUOTE=IronDanHamza;n32438621

Also I don't know why you'd think Clomid is "much more of a performance enhancer" than betamethasone.

Both drugs are barely performance enhancing at all, really. Clomid is a PCT and Betamethasone is a topical corticosteroid.[/QUOTE]

You're a knowledgeable guy, so I'm sure you know the mechanisms of actions and what these drugs are used for by athletes so I'm not sure why you would suggest there's little difference between clomid use and betamethasone use by an athlete; they have completely different uses and effects

[STREET CLEANER]

Some do, some don't.

It gets tied up with lawyers and others get the swift justice. I guess having a promotional company backing you up bends the rules.

[IronDanHamza]

You're a knowledgeable guy, so I'm sure you know the mechanisms of actions and what these drugs are used for by athletes so I'm not sure why you would suggest there's little difference between clomid use and betamethasone use by an athlete; they have completely different uses and effects

No no, I did not say there is little difference between the drugs. They are two totally different drugs. As clearly stated one is a PCT and the other is a topical corticosteroid.

What I’m confused about, as also clearly stated, is why you would consider Clomid “much more of a performance enhancer” when it’s not. Clomid is again, used for PCT, not for enhancing performance particularly.

[The D3vil]

People take PEDs for a reason, so I'm happy they're standing on business, but cant help but think that if he was as a higher profile fighter with more backing (Canelo, Ryan Garcia, Baumgardner, Benn), he wouldn't be serving such a long sentence.

[tokon]

No no, I did not say there is little difference between the drugs. They are two totally different drugs. As clearly stated one is a PCT and the other is a topical corticosteroid.

What I’m confused about, as also clearly stated, is why you would consider Clomid “much more of a performance enhancer” when it’s not. Clomid is again, used for PCT, not for enhancing performance particularly.

Clomid is not just used for PCT. It's also utilised as mono therapy ie to raise natural testosterone levels in the absence of other drugs. I suppose it's just a matter of opinion but I think a drug used to raise testosterone levels is probably considered more of a performance enhancer than one used to reduce inflammation. You will probably disagree, and that's fine too.

[Sid-Knee]

Conor Benn.

Dillian Whyte (second and third time)

Conor wasn't able to fight in the UK for years so had to fight in the US. It's the same with Lara. He's banned from fighting in the UK but has been out fighting in Mexico.

Whyte had the clear test with VADA so it helped him out with the second one. The third time though, he was banned??

[TheProudLunatic]

Dang

And he was on the cusp of dominating the sport

[IronDanHamza]

Clomid is not just used for PCT. It's also utilised as mono therapy ie to raise natural testosterone levels in the absence of other drugs.

You are quite literally describing PCT (post cycle therapy). Athletes use Clomid post cycle in the absence of the actual PED's they have been blasting for the last 8-12 weeks. To help raise their natural levels back to a normal baseline (in the absence of the other drugs and the effects they have had on the athlete).

I suppose it's just a matter of opinion but I think a drug used to raise testosterone levels is probably considered more of a performance enhancer than one used to reduce inflammation. You will probably disagree, and that's fine too.

Ehhh, no, not really. No athlete is using Clomid for any other reason than a PCT.

It can aid the increase of Testosterone yes, as a PCT. Not ever used as something to enhance performance. No athlete is blasting Clomid in their cycle, it doesn't make any sense to do so.

Betamethasone is a topical corticosteroid, so not particularly a performance enhancer either, but, can be used as one if it's used very close to competition.

But, again, it is not "much more of a performance enhancer" like you are attempting to claim here. Neither are particularly or would typically be used as "performance enhancers". Albeit both technically can be used as one (extremely mildly)