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  • famicommander
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    #21
    Originally posted by HisExcellency

    Also, let's not forget he's the only fighter to hand Canelo his first 'PROPER' loss since he was just 23yo and green when he fought Mayweather. Therefore, Bivol has handed 2 top p4pers their only loss to date in addition to popping Zurdo's cherry!
    Canelo was the reigning WBC and Ring belt champion when he fought Floyd. Get out of here with that nonsense.

    And he also got his ass whooped by GGG twice, he just got gifts on the scorecards both times.

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    • gamesworn
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      #22
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
      Jai is a well schooled boxer

      bit basic and quite hittable though having already had a broken jaw

      it’s be an interesting match as Jai is a pendulum, much longer than Bivol, and loves the step back
      Its definitely a good match up i want to see soon. Maybe after Beterbiev 3 and Benavides

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      • HisExcellency
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        #23
        Originally posted by famicommander

        Canelo was the reigning WBC and Ring belt champion when he fought Floyd. Get out of here with that nonsense.

        And he also got his ass whooped by GGG twice, he just got gifts on the scorecards both times.
        Lol how many fighter's do you know reach their peak aged 23? Therefore, you can't compare a young, green and weight-drained Canelo Mayweather fought with the 31yo Bivol beat.

        Re GGG, I agree but it's a matter of opinion plus I'm only referring to official losses.

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        • El_Maldito_Rey
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          #24
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Canelo was the reigning WBC and Ring belt champion when he fought Floyd. Get out of here with that nonsense.

          And he also got his ass whooped by GGG twice, he just got gifts on the scorecards both times.
          The first fight was close and controversial, the second fight Triple Ducks face looked like pounded hamburger meat and he left the ring crying like a little b itch, couldn’t even stay for an interview, that’s not “whooping someone’s ass”. 0-2-1. Keep crying.

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          • El_Maldito_Rey
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            #25
            Originally posted by famicommander

            Bivol vs world title winning opposition:
            W vs Jean Pascal UD 12
            W vs Joe Smith Jr. UD 12
            W vs Canelo Alvarez UD 12
            W vs Gilberto Ramirez UD 12
            L vs Artur Beterbiev MD 12
            W vs Artur Beterbiev UD 12

            other notable wins: Sullivan Barrera, Isaac Chilemba, Lenin Castillo, Lyndon Arthur, Malik Zinad

            He's well deserving of his P4P #4 ranking, and he will have more opportunities to rise if he keeps fighting and beating quality opposition. Benavidez, the Beterbiev trilogy, and a potential move up to cruiserweight would all enhance his legacy. And he wanted to move down to 168 for a Canelo fight, but Canelo refused.
            Take away Canelo and 40 year old ass Beterbiev and that’s a terrible resume. Nothing but a bunch of nobodies, Malik Zinad? Really?

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            • JakeTheBoxer
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              #26
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              but who is better pure boxer between Usyk and Bivol
              Bivol clearly.

              Joshua and Fury woild be bums if they fought at 175.

              Usyk us a great fighter But he just doesn't have to ve cery skilled. He fights guys much worse than Canelo or Beterbiev.

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                #27
                do cherry pick have resume like that,???


                "he easier doe"

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                • PerfectJab
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by famicommander

                  Usyk and it's not particularly close. Bivol is a fantastic fighter but Usyk is on another level.
                  Strongly disagree. It is the other way round.
                  Bivol hasn't got any clear flaws or weaknesses. Everything is just elite. Only thing anyone can mention is his ko ratio but that is part of his style, working on winning every round.
                  Usyk main asset is his workrate. His opponents can't keep up, so if it is even for the first half, he always comes on top in the second half.
                  Usually his fights are really competitive for the first 5-6 rounds.
                  And he has never fought anybody (and is unlikely too, with the current heavyweights) who also has a great cardio and workrate.
                  Also, a big difference technically: When Usyk has to move backwards, he shells up. Punching going backwards isn't his thing.
                  Bivol is as effective in punching coming forward as he is going backwards, like no one else in boxing. His attack patterns are also very hard to read.


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                  • SouthpawRight
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gamesworn

                    Its definitely a good match up i want to see soon. Maybe after Beterbiev 3 and Benavides
                    add in the fact that Jai is rangy southpaw

                    While Bivol isn’t long for these weights but boxes like a tall guy

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                    • SouthpawRight
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PerfectJab
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                      Bivol clearly.

                      Joshua and Fury woild be bums if they fought at 175.

                      Usyk us a great fighter But he just doesn't have to ve cery skilled. He fights guys much worse than Canelo or Beterbiev.
                      Strongly disagree. It is the other way round.
                      Bivol hasn't got any clear flaws or weaknesses. Everything is just elite. Only thing anyone can mention is his ko ratio but that is part of his style, working on winning every round.
                      Usyk main asset is his workrate. His opponents can't keep up, so if it is even for the first half, he always comes on top in the second half.
                      Usually his fights are really competitive for the first 5-6 rounds.
                      And he has never fought anybody (and is unlikely too, with the current heavyweights) who also has a great cardio and workrate.
                      Also, a big difference technically: When Usyk has to move backwards, he shells up. Punching going backwards isn't his thing.
                      Bivol is as effective in punching coming forward as he is going backwards, like no one else in boxing. His attack patterns are also very hard to read.

                      Bivol being short for these weights but outboxing everyone as he fights like a tall guy is testament to Bivol being a master boxer

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