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  • #31
    Your alternative, pretend, promotional rating are what you're worried about?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

      That's what they want.
      If that's the case instead of having

      WBC Champion
      WBA Champion
      WBO Champion
      IBF Champion

      There will be
      TKO Champion
      Other Organization Champion
      ex PBC Champion

      In MMA
      UFC Champion
      Bellator Champion
      ONE Champion
      PFL Champion

      I don't really see how that "fixes" boxing. If anything, it might be worst as the Champions won't face each other.
      Last edited by boxingitis; 03-05-2025, 05:51 PM.

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      • #33
        I've been saying for a while now that Turki plans to make a UFC style business out of boxing. His own business, own belt (ring magazine) etc - its been completely obvious which direction this was heading.

        Anyone thinking he was just putting on stacked cards and paying that kind of money with no big end game is naive.

        All he was doing iscflexing to show fighters they need to join the new UFC of boxing if they want the biggest paydays. His main aim is to monopolise the higher end of boxing by creating a UFC style business.

        Long term it'll be a kick in the nuts for the likes of Hearn and Warren. He's using them for now but eventually won't need them and they'll struggle to not lose any of their bigger names to Turki and his new UFC of boxing.

        That's why he bought Ring magazine. Its not about magazine production. He gets to control a belt thats prestigious and has history. It will be the belt of his company, to give it more credibility.
        Last edited by deathofaclown; 03-05-2025, 05:50 PM.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

          If that's the case instead of having

          WBC Champion
          WBA Champion
          WBO Champion
          IBF Champion

          There will be
          TKO Champion
          Other Organization Champion
          ex PBC Champion

          In MMA
          UFC Champion
          Bellator Champion
          ONE Champion
          PFL Champion

          I don't really see how that "fixes" boxing. If anything, it might be worst as the Champions won't face each other.
          Most of the best Bellator and PFL fighters have gone to the UFC eventually to fight the best. ONE I don’t follow but isn’t that mostly kickboxing etc? Not much MMA?

          If they do it right, 90% of the best will be in TKO fighting eachother. Of course there’ll be those like Tank outside it doing their own thing, but they’ll be struggling to find good opponents and competing with the lower PPV costs Turki will be charging.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
            WWE & UFC have plateaued and are dying out, Power Slap was dumb and a bad investment, and now Dana Dingleberry White's going to weazel his way into Boxing by way of His Excellency.

            The dude who owns probox and boxingscene, you missed out on a golden opportunity with Turki to set up that new boxing League. Now greedy, dirty Dana going to rat it up.
            WWE's making record profits.

            Wrestlemania last year, was the biggest of all-time & this year's is looking like it's going to be even bigger

            They've never been hotter since Vince McMahon was forced to sell
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            • #36
              Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
              I've been saying for a while now that Turki plans to make a UFC style business out of boxing. His own business, own belt (ring magazine) etc - its been completely obvious which direction this was heading.

              Anyone thinking he was just putting on stacked cards and paying that kind of money with no big end game is naive.

              All he was doing iscflexing to show fighters they need to join the new UFC of boxing if they want the biggest paydays. His main aim is to monopolise the higher end of boxing by creating a UFC style business.

              Long term it'll be a kick in the nuts for the likes of Hearn and Warren. He's using them for now but eventually won't need them and they'll struggle to not lose any of their bigger names to Turki and his new UFC of boxing.

              That's why he bought Ring magazine. Its not about magazine production. He gets to control a belt thats prestigious and has history. It will be the belt of his company, to give it more credibility.
              This is the ONLY person that can CLEARLY SEE what's going on. 98 percent of the boxing world has been lulled to sleep by big fights while Turki operates in the background. As desthofaclown has said, and I'm doubling down .. don't be shocked when Turki takes, Hearns, Warren's, Arum's and Oscar s fighters, signs them to the Ring Magazine, and pushes the four I mentioned above out the door.

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              • #37
                I've always worried that behind the curtain , Turki wouldn’t be good for boxing because at some point will begin to flex his power in all the wrong ways
                If history has shown us something well it seems that we haven’t learned much from it
                I’m hoping i’m wrong but here comes trouble and a monopoly that won’t be good for the whole especially considering that Dana is involved
                It will be a take it or leave it situation

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Detroit29 View Post

                  This is the ONLY person that can CLEARLY SEE what's going on. 98 percent of the boxing world has been lulled to sleep by big fights while Turki operates in the background. As desthofaclown has said, and I'm doubling down .. don't be shocked when Turki takes, Hearns, Warren's, Arum's and Oscar s fighters, signs them to the Ring Magazine, and pushes the four I mentioned above out the door.
                  Yep

                  The only thing I thought would happen would be he would keep someone like the WBC around, so he would use their belt in future and outcast the others. I still think that was the original plan, which is why Sulaiman was often close to the Saudi events but somewhere along the line they had the idea to buy the ring magazine and the belt comes with it. For them that's even better, you don't get the baggage that comes with a belt organisation and have to deal with an outside organisation. Now they simply own a belt that is generally held by the best in the division and that's really as deep as it goes.

                  So now boxing is gonna actually be much like MMA. the best money and prestigious title belong to one company.

                  As for Hearn, Warren etc. I guess they'll go eventually go back to their domestic fights and trying to hold on to their future stars. They'll probably end up trying to tie them down to long term contracts. The current belt organisations will work with those promoters but have even less credibility because none of the biggest names will be holding their belts.

                  Whether all this works out is another thing but this is what will happen if it goes. They've certainly got the money to make it possible.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                    WWE's making record profits.

                    Wrestlemania last year, was the biggest of all-time & this year's is looking like it's going to be even bigger

                    They've never been hotter since Vince McMahon was forced to sell
                    Dude, the main point here is that the ratings are going down and the viewership is in decline.

                    Dana, even though it is his company, did his fighters real dirty, completely ripped them off while they took all the brutal, bone crushing punishment.

                    Edit: McGregor was the exception to the rule cuz he broke the bank with the Floyd fight plus endorsements and sponserships.
                    Last edited by HandsofIron; 03-06-2025, 03:35 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post

                      Alright so maybe dying out was a tad too strong, choice of words, they're on the decline.

                      Back in the day, Dana said the UFC was going to crush and takeover the NFL and Boxing.

                      Now, Dana's trying to get into Boxing because his MMA talent pool is thin and drying out.
                      Dana White does have a thin pool. But, his biggest problem is that he has many fighters from Russia and the former Russian Republics who prefer to fight on the ground which is not to the fan’s base liking. Dana is imploring UFC fighters to stand up and fight!

                      I wouldn’t worry about him getting into boxing because like Elon Musk’s acting as Trumps VP, Tesla’s sales are plunging in Europe and the Far East. Dana has no time to play with boxing because he has enough issues at UFC, mainly his pool is running thin, and grapplers are driving him nuts

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