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  • #11
    Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
    Steve Willis should be suspended. Let the draw stand, but the WBA should demand a rematch within six months or a unification with Shakur.
    No unification alternative please. If the "draw" is allowed to stand (which it shouldn't IMO) then a rematch within 90 days should be mandated.
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    • #12
      Check Willis' bank accounts.

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      • #13
        He won't be the ref for the rematch

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        • #14
          Roach won even without the controversy.
          shenmue shenmue likes this.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
            Last week, Stephen Breadman Edwards used a term to describe Duran’s win over SR Leonard.

            He came up with the conclusion that Duran fought over his head and he came back down to earth in the rematch. The proper term is “Regression to mean”.​

            Roach fought over his head aka “Regression to mean” and I don’t believe he will win the rematch. There is so much stacked against Roach. The judges, the ref and the promoters who are the A side, which is Tank.

            There has to be another way to appeal this ridiculous decision aka robbery. I don’t know what that is because rarely does that happen. This decision should be a win for Roach but it will not change. Roach will lose the rematch and this asterisk-laden dubious win will go into the history books as a “Win” for Tank. Not for boxing fans.
            I thought the same, but we won't know for sure until future fights happen.

            A better way to understand this phenomenon is rising to the occasion, sometimes boxers do so for a wide variety of reasons, I'm thinking of someone like Buster Douglas against Tyson for example.

            The Duran case is more complicated because he did very well after his loss, I think that Leonard's strategy for the first fight had a great impact in the result of that night. Leonard wasn't really trying to outbox Duran in that bout, he chose to be in the trenches with Manos de Piedra, which was the Panamian's area of comfort, hell, he was in them with Hagler and almost beat him. Sometimes a boxer just underperforms or brings the wrong strategy.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by lilacp View Post

              I thought the same, but we won't know for sure until future fights happen.

              A better way to understand this phenomenon is rising to the occasion, sometimes boxers do so for a wide variety of reasons, I'm thinking of someone like Buster Douglas against Tyson for example.

              The Duran case is more complicated because he did very well after his loss, I think that Leonard's strategy for the first fight had a great impact in the result of that night. Leonard wasn't really trying to outbox Duran in that bout, he chose to be in the trenches with Manos de Piedra, which was the Panamian's area of comfort, hell, he was in them with Hagler and almost beat him. Sometimes a boxer just underperforms or brings the wrong strategy.
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              If Roach gets a rematch instead of a decision win, I hope he rises to the occasion again. I hope he beats this cherry picking pampered protected embarrassment to boxing.
              It’s going to be a tough challenge. As much as I insult Tank, I cannot ignore his skills and power. A lot is riding on him especially.

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              • #17
                Under the circumstances; I think so. Even though I believed that Lamont Roach won the fight. The fight was close and could have gone either way.

                Tank virtually swept all of the early rounds and initiated almost all of the exchanges; While landing several crisp, accurate and clean punches in the process. Roach had done the very exact same thing.

                For the exception; I believed that his punches were the more impactful and effective. As they did more damage to Gervonta Davis while hurting him in the process.​

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
                  No Roach won the fight, the knee and then a draw says Roack won, I don't know why its not overturned the only thing I can think off is Roach has to apply for it and he is being paid not too. and then given a rematch and much greater purse, its not a good look for Tank at all.
                  Spot on! It's up to Team Roach to initiate the appeal's process by filing a formal protest and complaint to the NYSAC. Remember that both of these fighters are Al Haymon's fighters.

                  In knowing Al; He will do everything necessary in order to protect his only cash cow. So unfortunately, there will be no appeal of this verdict. Al won't allow it. Therefore, the Draw stands.​

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                  • #19
                    Great analysis on the overall by pundit here and this is a great article. In Crawford vs Kavaliau....why didn't bud get 10-8 for taking a knee after 3-4 punches landed on him, in AJ vs Pulev, Pulev wasn't counted nor disqualified for turning back at AJ, FLOYD Jr vs Zab, Floyd touched the. Canvass with no count.......all these sht happens
                    What if Yank was awarded MD win??? Canelo got a couple of fights as gift too

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by labash View Post
                      Great analysis on the overall by pundit here and this is a great article. In Crawford vs Kavaliau....why didn't bud get 10-8 for taking a knee after 3-4 punches landed on him, in AJ vs Pulev, Pulev wasn't counted nor disqualified for turning back at AJ, FLOYD Jr vs Zab, Floyd touched the. Canvass with no count.......all these sht happens
                      What if Yank was awarded MD win??? Canelo got a couple of fights as gift too
                      pulev got a standing count v joshua what u on about??? LOL

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