Who was Greater? Wilder or Zhang

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  • RigosPressureCooker
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    #11
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Parker>Zhang>Flip>Wilder
    > Your mum.

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    • IceTrayDaGang
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      #12
      both are the same... wilder got lucky and fought a bunch of cans early on which makes him look better than he really is... soon as he fought someone that can fight, he took an L... and for zhang, same shiiet... he got lucky beating on cans, soon as he stepped up on comp, took an L.

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      • hugh grant
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        #13
        Originally posted by RigosPressureCooker

        > Your mum.
        Did I say something out of line?

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        • gamesworn
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          #14
          None of them are great.lol
          Zhang defeated Wilder, so he is better. Also Wilder doesn't have great wins/resume to even debate he is a better fighter than Zhang.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #15
            Originally posted by Groin Grabber
            Just realized this was a response to that baby Raggamuffin

            Yeah Wilder is trash and got beat by a smaller fatter guy. Like that bum Joshua. At least ruiz was alot younger than Zhang when he whooped windmill
            Joshua is trash and a Zhang was always trash…. Anyone who has a problem thinks that Zhang was great has limited knowledge and should be thrown off a his message board.

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #16
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
              both are the same... wilder got lucky and fought a bunch of cans early on which makes him look better than he really is... soon as he fought someone that can fight, he took an L... and for zhang, same shiiet... he got lucky beating on cans, soon as he stepped up on comp, took an L.
              Same as Joshua. As soon as he stepped up and down he got rag dolled. Bum ass…

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              • KillaCamNZ
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                #17
                Zhang all day.

                The gap between perception of Wilder's skill, and Wilder's actual skill, might be the widest in recent history.

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                • RigosPressureCooker
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Did I say something out of line?
                  No, I just saw an opportunity for a lame joke and went for it.

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                  • NihonJim
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    I know at heavyweight, weight is basically ignored by fans and media, due to their being no limit. But I think Wilder over-achieved with his size and frame. He was a 215 pounder fighting guys much bigger than him while having a fire-fight style. He’s isn’t technically very good like Usyk who can afford to fight bigger fighters because he’s technically that great.

                    Wilder, at least inside the ring, is about as big as a Cruiserweight. In other words, he wasn’t cut for this era of bigger heavyweights.
                    Usyk?

                    Wilders size wasn't the issue, it was his lack of skill. He was a quick fighter with monster power, but he was also ignorant, thick headed and stubborn.

                    Wilders downfall was caused by himself not a lack of size.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      Wilder top 10(Ring) opponents: 3-4-1 with wins over stiverne and ortiz twice

                      Zhang top 10(Ring) opponents: 3-3 with wins over wilder and joyce twice
                      I would say that Wilder was not the same fighter after the Tyson Fury trilogy. It took a lot out of him both mentally and physically.

                      Wilder was just a shell of his former self when Zhang defeated him. By that time Deontay was already a ruined fighter. A prime Wilder would have whupped Zhang's ass clean.​

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