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  • Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy View Post

    I hope to be wrong about it but his statement about not wanting to fight for a second time along with his uneasy mood gave me the impression that he was upset.
    His English is far from good
    Actually he speaks more French
    I was watching the sky feed and when it happened someone in Bivol’s corner asked what did he say and immediately after he was told in Russian or wtv they speak they all started laughing

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    • Originally posted by TheTTC View Post
      Beterbiev commanded the ring, pursued / chased Bivol every round, landed effectively, and sliced him open. Bivol ran, stopped briefly to lash out now and then, and ran again. An even more obvious victory for Artur than the first fight.
      I could smell this result coming though. Between round highlights showed the few punches landed by Bivol from several angles so the narrative was he was dominating Artur. Announcers so biased I turned off the sound after the first round.
      Seriously: exactly what did Bivol do to earn the win over the champ?
      Here is where I say you are going wrong. Bivol's defence was elite. Yes Beterbiev did get through but only with a fraction of his punches. So much was taken on gloves and arms. You then are in the space of what is 'effective aggresion'? Beterbiev can bludgeon opponents without landing clean (as Canelo did v Callum Smith), but for me in this fight that wasn't effective. Bivol could still fight going backwards and at times forward - move, slip, counter and return fire.

      And pursuing/chasing an opponent isn't commanding the ring. How often was Bivol cut off and trapped / pinned on the ropes / corner? Or was Bivol's movement good enough to reposition himself centre ring?
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      • Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks View Post

        Lmao..not gonna happen.
        That was before the fight, if you ask me right now I would take Bivol by decision.

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        • And I still think Beterbiev won.

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          • Originally posted by TheTTC View Post
            Beterbiev commanded the ring, pursued / chased Bivol every round, landed effectively, and sliced him open. Bivol ran, stopped briefly to lash out now and then, and ran again. An even more obvious victory for Artur than the first fight.
            I could smell this result coming though. Between round highlights showed the few punches landed by Bivol from several angles so the narrative was he was dominating Artur. Announcers so biased I turned off the sound after the first round.
            Seriously: exactly what did Bivol do to earn the win over the champ?
            Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post
            Jesus. Bivol running and running and then flurrying the last 30 seconds of rounds is incredible. Bivol was smart to wait until Biev was 40. Biev is aging and a few years ago he crumples Bivol.

            Zero idea how anyone can watch Bivol run and run against Biev and scream for joy. Biev rocked him several times.

            Just amazing.


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            • That was pretty clear. Bivol clearly won 1,2, 7, 8,9, 11, and 3/10 were close. Beterbiev clearly won 4,5,6, 12. There's no way Beterbiev wins this. He could have gotten a draw, but anyone who thinks Beterbiev won this fight is going to be in the clear minority. He outlanded Beterbiev by almost 40% FFS, despite throwing 140 fewer punches, and outlanded him in 8 rounds. How DOESN'T he win the fight?
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              • Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
                That was pretty clear. Bivol clearly won 1,2, 7, 8,9, 11, and 3/10 were close. Beterbiev clearly won 4,5,6, 12. There's no way Beterbiev wins this. He could have gotten a draw, but anyone who thinks Beterbiev won this fight is going to be in the clear minority. He outlanded Beterbiev by almost 40% FFS, despite throwing 140 fewer punches, and outlanded him in 8 rounds. How DOESN'T he win the fight?
                many of the Artur guys incorrectly value aggression over clean punching

                and they

                think coming forward automatically equals effective aggression

                broadcasts need to educate viewers that clean punching is king. Hbo used to review these rules before every major bout

                the better clean puncher is the effective aggression, smarter ring generalship, and stronger defense

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                • Originally posted by Airtioteclint View Post
                  I thought it was almost same as first fight. Bivol not only landing more but also the cleaner punches. I thini he had a funny thought in his head about losing by ko in the last round that he's winning in and he fought scared as a result.

                  Funny how both didn't sound too enthusiastic about a 3rd fight with Beterbiev even saying he didn't want the second fight. Strange.

                  hed be smart to skip the 3rd fight career wise, 36 rounds with beterbiev has to shorten your career, look at fury's trilogy with wilder, i think that took something out of fury.


                  bivol probably thinking he really doesnt want another 12 round battering even if he wins its very painful

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                  • Dmitry snatched this victory out of the jaws of defeat. He simply wanted it more and outperformed Artur.

                    I thought Beterbiev performed a lot better and earlier in this fight than I had previously anticipated. I had winning the early rounds as Bivol appeared broken and looked as if he was ready to throw in the towel.

                    However, by the mid rounds he completely took over the fight. He started to mount his own attack by implementing a lot of movement and clean combination punches. He was simply beating Beterbiev to the punch.

                    Artur appeared both lost and perplexed. As he had troubled cutting off the ring. From round six on; I gave Bivol every round for the exception of the twelfth where it appeared that Beterbiev buzzed him.

                    In any case, good effort by both men in another hotly contested and crowd-pleasing fight.

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                    • Originally posted by eco1 View Post
                      And I still think Beterbiev won.
                      Buy you a glasses than.
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