Daniel Dubois: Usyk didn't grab his balls did he? That wasn't a low blow! Martin Bakole quit many times when we sparred..

[pollywog]

Dubois did nothing to earn the shot against Usyk and the only way he was gonna win was to fight dirty.

He tried to beat Usyk with a lowblow and did beat Hrgovic with headbutts.

When the going gets tough he quits.

[billeau2]

You really believe that
It looked to me like that shoulder was the culprit of his loss
I would though like him to avenge that loss before moving on and yes I know he’s got bigger fish to fry but that would settle this argument

It is seldom "one thing." Fighters have to be able to fight injured... It sucks but it is part of the game. I do not agree with kafkod that Hunter was always going to win that fight, however I do agree that he did win the fight exploiting a weakness Bakole, at the time, had in the ring. Bakole has gotten better about how to apply pressure, unlike Joyce (for example) he has made adjustments. When you are fighting a smaller, mobile fighter with a decent chin, if you have holes in your game related to pressure, you might well lack the ability to set your opponent up.

There are two ways one learns to pressure, that is off off the fighting line, direct, and cutting the ring down, and a lot of big punchers make the mistake of trying to do a combination of both... Probably what Bakole did lol. Liston did not cut the ring, he went off his fighting line, yet Foreman, who Liston mentored, cut the ring down... Either approach has its merits but when mixing them you don't do either very well.

[billeau2]

Hunter, when he was at his best, was a very underrated fighter. There was nothing spectacular about him and he was small, for a HW, But he had a great chin, great engine, and he knew how to ride punches to take the sting out of them.

Styles make fights, and Hunter was just wrong for Bakole, which is why they turned down repeated offers of a rematch.

Hunter has skills and many guys in the division have very limited skills. Realistically I would not put him up there with fighters like Byrd, but, compared to a somewhat yellow Bakole (I know I know haha), he had enough to take some heat and see it through.

Yet when Hunter fought Usyk he was not able... Story of the division really. Intersting thing is, Usyk beat Hunter by basically overpowering him. I also think that bakole would have an excellent chance of winning that fight if they fought again.

[MulaKO]

It is seldom "one thing." Fighters have to be able to fight injured... It sucks but it is part of the game. I do not agree with kafkod that Hunter was always going to win that fight, however I do agree that he did win the fight exploiting a weakness Bakole, at the time, had in the ring. Bakole has gotten better about how to apply pressure, unlike Joyce (for example) he has made adjustments. When you are fighting a smaller, mobile fighter with a decent chin, if you have holes in your game related to pressure, you might well lack the ability to set your opponent up.

There are two ways one learns to pressure, that is off off the fighting line, direct, and cutting the ring down, and a lot of big punchers make the mistake of trying to do a combination of both... Probably what Bakole did lol. Liston did not cut the ring, he went off his fighting line, yet Foreman, who Liston mentored, cut the ring down... Either approach has its merits but when mixing them you don't do either very well.

Bakole is a raw talent in my eyes or should I say a work in progress
Just hope he keeps his competition on the up and up cause he ain’t gonna be better fighting guys below his level
People think that cutting the ring is easy , thé reality is it’s not as simple as folks put it
Most boxers today are taught to swarm in making them liable to what is coming back
To me that is not cutting but if a boxer wants to get in that way …….

[BustedKnuckles]

It was not a ludicrously low punch 'But it was low enough for Oleksandr Uysk to push the boundaries of gamesmanship. Uysk also behaved in a similar fashion against Joshua in their second fight when Joshua whacked him to the mid section'.

I have not actually listened or watched the interview 'At the time I make this post, but? I am not surprised if Martin Bakole has been smashed up in sparring a few times during his career. I find it very peculiar the way, people seem to be passing over his loss vs Michael Hunter'.

The loss is not what I am criticizing Martin Bakole for 'It is the manner in how he lost, against a fighter Michael Hunter. Who was a former Cruiserweight fighter, that has never been renowned for his brute strength or offensive power. Bakole was beaten by Hunter, at his own game. Hunter bulled him and smashed him up into submission'.

Michael Hunter is skill for skill the best fighter 'And highest level fight, Bakole has ever fought. Apart from that Martin Bakole's best win is against a domestic level American Heavyweight fighter. Bakole is for sure a dangerous and solid heavyweight fighter, but? For me to truly consider him a Word level threat he will need to compete and win at a higher level'.

In regards to Daniel Dubois vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'The trajectory of the fight was already apparent by the middle rounds. Dubois was beginning to fade, like he has done historically in all of his top level Heavyweight fights. I have personally always regarded Daniel Dubois as a front runner, I have witnessed nothing in his career which suggest he is not a front runner at top level'.

Daniel Dubois was done by the middle rounds vs Joe Joyce, although Dubois showed courage to battle on for so long with his injury. That injury was inflicted upon him by Joe Joyce, I think people in the boxing community need to acknowledge that. Joyce was smashing Dubois up with his jab. And the more the fight progressed Dubois was systematically being beaten up. Daniel Dubois was done by the middle rounds vs Oleksansdr Uysk I, and? I honestly believe his fifth round knockout of Anthony Joshua, saved him from being systematically beaten up over the distance by Joshua'.

Note: Anthony Joshua on his worst night as professional fighter, from the very first moment he was knocked down in round 1 'Joshua got up off the deck and fought his way back into the fight. Round 2, round 3, round 4. round 5 Joshua was getting stronger and slowly but surely? His superior skill for skill boxing was beginning to surface. If it was not for all the uncharacteristic unforced errors and technical mistakes from Joshua in my opinion, Dubois really should of been smashed up'.

I have referred to that fight and performance from Daniel Dubois as his 'Any Given Saturday'. In metaphorical to the NFL movie 'Any Given Sunday: 1999'. Daniel Dubois to his credit took his opportunities against a version of Anthony Joshua, who seemed to totally disregard is Olympic Gold Medal skills and professional experience as one of the Three Heavyweight Mountains of this era'.

Daniel Dubois vs Oleksandr Usyk II 'Is an intriguing fight still. But people need to factor in? That essentially Dubois lost the fight, due to his lack of endurance. Daniel Dubois managed the pace of Oleksandr Uysk worst than both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua by many miles. Daniel Dubois weighed in at 233 pounds, which suggests Don Charles and his team? Tactically prepared him for endurance, and a distance fight. Even still with all of that preparation, Daniel Dubois began to disappear soon as he reached the middle rounds. Because like I have been telling everyone? Daniel Dubois stylistically as a fighter, is a front runner'.

To conclude: This newer version of Daniel Dubois is weighing in close to 250 pounds 'To be specific, Dubois weighed in at 248 pound vs Anthony Joshua. Dubois and his team already know from experience, that? It will be very difficult for them to beat Uysk in a skill for skill endurance fight. Therefore in there is a rematch? I would expect Daniel Dubois to continue with his recent conditioning, and tactically prepare for a extremely high octane violent attacking fight vs Oleksandr Uysk II'.

Daniel Dubois and his team are clearly high off his recent performances 'They most likely believe, the power of Dubois can get to Oleksandr Uysk in a rematch. If Dubois is to win vs Uysk II, it would have to be inside the first 6 rounds. I think most top level Heavyweights and their training teams are aware what the blue print is to beat Dubois, yes he is dangerous and powerful. But skill for skill he is not a very sophisticated boxer, and soon as those middle rounds approach he begins to fade as a fighter' etc.

I quit reading this post halfway through, I had to move on. But I agree that it's quite possible, if not likely, that if DDD had not KOd AJ, the rest of the fight wouldve gotten progressively worse for DDD.

[billeau2]

Bakole is a raw talent in my eyes or should I say a work in progress
Just hope he keeps his competition on the up and up cause he ain’t gonna be better fighting guys below his level
People think that cutting the ring is easy , thé reality is it’s not as simple as folks put it
Most boxers today are taught to swarm in making them liable to what is coming back
To me that is not cutting but if a boxer wants to get in that way …….

Any skill takes a real effort to work with. Yes, swarming, trying to chase a puncher... all ways of catching one quick. Bakole has what he needs. If I were in his camp and got a chance to fight Usyk, I certainly would not turn it down. Bakole has a similar situation as Ortiz in ONE respect (Only one I promise! lol)... He has been great at ending his fights early. Hunter taught him a lesson, he had adjustments to make, no shame... He has otherwise been fairly dominant against the fec al matter that goes for the average of this weak division. Of course the Gimp and Duggum would inform us all about the many levels of skill involved with every turd faced by the likes of Bakole, Parker, etc... What can I say?

[MulaKO]

I quot readinf this post halfway through, I had to move on. But I agree that it's quite possible, if not likely, that if DDD had not KOd AJ, the rest of the fight wouldve gotten progressively worse for DDD.

Nobody does Busted
You ain’t special lol

[MulaKO]

Any skill takes a real effort to work with. Yes, swarming, trying to chase a puncher... all ways of catching one quick. Bakole has what he needs. If I were in his camp and got a chance to fight Usyk, I certainly would not turn it down. Bakole has a similar situation as Ortiz in ONE respect (Only one I promise! lol)... He has been great at ending his fights early. Hunter taught him a lesson, he had adjustments to make, no shame... He has otherwise been fairly dominant against the fec al matter that goes for the average of this weak division. Of course the Gimp and Duggum would inform us all about the many levels of skill involved with every turd faced by the likes of Bakole, Parker, etc... What can I say?

He can only get better and that comes by comprehending what his mistakes are and how to correct them
Fighting better opposition each time out will have a positive impact on him

[j0zef]

Dubois was quite likeable before, now he just comes off like a whiny btch.

And here's the thing - let's say for argument's sake that it was borderline, but should have been legal (it clearly was low). What's Dubois' argument? That he got beaten around the ring and quit after a jab, but that he got robbed because his 1 lucky punch in the whole fight didn't give him the title? That's it?

Btw, if they do rematch, I'm pretty sure this fool will try to repeat the lowblows in hopes that he created enough controversy in order not to get caught.

[NihonJim]

Dubois performance vs Usyk was awful, I'm not sure what his strategy even was, when he came in super light I assumed he was going for a volume approach, but that obviously wasn't the case.

The quit was also unacceptable in my opinion, he wasn't even taking a real beating he just got annoyed and jacked it in.

I give him his credit he's improving as a fighter, his confidence has gotten a lot better but I will always have some scepticism of what happens to him if he gets in a situation again where he's being outboxed and having little success in a fight.