Comments Thread For: There is no love lost between Keyshawn Davis and Denys Berinchyk as they both weigh in

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  • doom_specialist
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    #21
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    There is no such thing as a weight bully, you weighin and you hydrate, the whole idea of a professional is to do this perfectly and you will be bigger than your opponent on fight night, I find it amusing that people call out being 100% professional in a negative way.
    Some people consider it to be taking advantage of the rules because "a good big fighter beats a good little fighter". It's not technically cheating, but you are gaming the system in a way. It's a ridiculous concept, but people do what they have to do so they can sleep comfortably.

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    • Roadblock
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      #22
      Originally posted by doom_specialist

      Some people consider it to be taking advantage of the rules because "a good big fighter beats a good little fighter". It's not technically cheating, but you are gaming the system in a way. It's a ridiculous concept, but people do what they have to do so they can sleep comfortably.
      No your not your just being a better professional. youre making sacrifices and working harder than the other guy thats on him not you.

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      • boxingitis
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        #23
        Hoping for the upset

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        • landotter
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          #24
          Originally posted by doom_specialist

          Some people consider it to be taking advantage of the rules because "a good big fighter beats a good little fighter". It's not technically cheating, but you are gaming the system in a way. It's a ridiculous concept, but people do what they have to do so they can sleep comfortably.
          Ok... do not roast me anyone (unless it is funny) as I am not any kind of athlete and never have been. I am short, skinny, uncoordinated and have slow reflexes. Otherwise, I am elite. But if I understand "rehydration" correctly, it is returning your body to a more natural weight. It is not like you are adding muscle or stamina from it. I guess it could maybe help with being able to absorb a little more punishment, but it is just water weight and all your training is geared to being "fit" for a certain division, and truly nothing done in the hours leading up to the fight effects that, right? Or am I way off base?

          I guess what I am asking is what is the actual physics of rehydration and does it really give an advantage to a boxer?

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          • Rockybigblower
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            #25
            Originally posted by PRvazquez
            I would’ve appreciated the fruit and ate it to be honest. Complete bitching in my eyes and taking your eyes off the prize
            I agree. What next....complaining that someone put cotton balls in the bathroom?

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            • SteveM
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              #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock

              No your not your just being a better professional. you're making sacrifices and working harder than the other guy thats on him not you.
              i think you're missing something. While making weight is obviously about discipline and you are quite right about this and we have all seen examples of missed-weight - Lemos (last fight) , Ryan , what you are missing is that some fighters have a built-in ability to lose more weight than others. A lot more weight. You could say "so what, all part of being pro" - but for me this tips what might be even fights so that we are no longer looking at just fighting ability but also who can shed the most weight. Canelo at 154, Haney, Bud and Keyshawn at 135 and Ennis at 147 are examples. Another Gilberto Cruz at 168.

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              • SteveM
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                #27
                Originally posted by landotter

                Ok... do not roast me anyone (unless it is funny) as I am not any kind of athlete and never have been. I am short, skinny, uncoordinated and have slow reflexes. Otherwise, I am elite. But if I understand "rehydration" correctly, it is returning your body to a more natural weight. It is not like you are adding muscle or stamina from it. I guess it could maybe help with being able to absorb a little more punishment, but it is just water weight and all your training is geared to being "fit" for a certain division, and truly nothing done in the hours leading up to the fight effects that, right? Or am I way off base?

                I guess what I am asking is what is the actual physics of rehydration and does it really give an advantage to a boxer?
                well IF on fight night Davis weighs 155/160 and Berinchyk weighs 145 then he is fighting a heavier and larger guy with all the advantages - weight of punch, strength in clinch

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                • Damn Wicked
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by landotter

                  Ok... do not roast me anyone (unless it is funny) as I am not any kind of athlete and never have been. I am short, skinny, uncoordinated and have slow reflexes. Otherwise, I am elite. But if I understand "rehydration" correctly, it is returning your body to a more natural weight. It is not like you are adding muscle or stamina from it. I guess it could maybe help with being able to absorb a little more punishment, but it is just water weight and all your training is geared to being "fit" for a certain division, and truly nothing done in the hours leading up to the fight effects that, right? Or am I way off base?

                  I guess what I am asking is what is the actual physics of rehydration and does it really give an advantage to a boxer?
                  Hydration (water) does add size to your muscles. Your muscles require water to function optimally. Water carries nutrients into your muscle because water is the foundation of blood. Our blood is made up of water. Our blood carries oxygen and good red blood cell count enables good stamina and endurance. If you're dehydrated you'll be at a severe disadvantage. Your muscles won't contract efficiently, your brain won't operate well, your balance and coordination will all be negatively affected. Hydrating properly by adding electrolytes, minerals and other micronutrients will optimize you, if done correctly. If you fail to do it properly you might be in big trouble when you get in the ring. Water hydration (electrolytes, minerals, micronutrients) is essential to a boxer rehydrating effectively. As a boxer ages he is less able to rehydrate efficiently, so he might unexpectedly find himself in trouble in the middle of a fight or later in the fight, especially if it's a grueling battle. BUT as long as he's able to rehydrate efficiently, he will be at an advantage if he is the naturally bigger fighter and he's notably bigger than his opponent.

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                  • El_Feroz99
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SteveM
                    Keyshawn obviously a much bigger guy - his frame is that of a super lightweight or a welter weight - in essence a weight bully. The IBF has it right with 2nd weigh ins on day of fight
                    Totally agree, I'm so sick of this. It just ruins so many fights before they start. It let's bs like Devin Loma happen.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BlackRobb

                      TeoFEMALE Lopez sent that box of bananas and watermelon.
                      I believe you. I wouldn’t put it past him. While he is both envious and jealous of black fighters and yet he still need them in order to receive a substantial pay day.

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