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  • #21
    Fury sucks balls that is why
    Boar balls may I add

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PRvazquez View Post

      Props homie amazing analysis
      Cheers man, thanks.

      When Muhammad Ali fought Ken Norton in their rematch. He also after that fight, decided to alter his training, style and approach to being a Heavyweight fighter. The rematch vs Ken Norton II, was the last time? The boxing world truly saw Muhammad Ali, float like a butterfly and string like a bee. Both Norton and Ali were in supreme condition, maybe a tad over trained in my opinion. Muhammad Ali during the post fight interview, you could see was bothered by his performance. Ali was good but? His former float like a butterfly sting like a bee style, was not as potent.

      Note: After Muhamad Ali vs Ken Norton II, Ali altered his style and adapted 'Because he knew that is what he needed to do, to stay competitive in the Heavyweight game. Muhammad Ali became a more static, relied on his guard to block and deflect punches more than just totally evading a punch. He increased his offensive aggression, and physiologically? Muhammad Ali at times was a bigger Heavyweight in terms of overall mass. But even though Muhammad Ali alters his game and style in all those areas, he could still float like a butterfly and sting like a bee if he wanted to. Muhammad Ali during the 1970's, was still skill for skill and athletically a elite level Heavyweight fighter in those areas'.

      To conclude: Tyson Fury similar vs Deontay Wilder I and then Otto Wallin 'Both of those fights were difficult contests. And contrary to certain media narratives? Tyson Fury without a shadow of a doubt did not win the first fight vs Deontay Wilder I. Fighters don't win World titles, by being backed up all night and deck twice once badly. Overall the correct decision was a draw. Fury went from being able out box Wladimir Kiltschko over 12 rounds, to then being embroiled in brutal battles vs Deontay Wilder and Otto Wallin. Fighters who are skill for skill nowhere near any version of Wladimir Kiltschko. This is why Tyson Fury alter his style, and became Kronk Fury' etc.

      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-14-2025, 09:08 AM.
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      • #23
        Fury's greatest win is Wlad in the worst heavyweight fight of all time.

        Since then his only so called world level win is Wilder and that guy is one of the worst champions ever.

        So what do we actually know of Fury's level? Nothing.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by elfag View Post
          Wallin was dirty did you see the replay when he shoved his thumb in furys cut trying to open it more? He should get DQ'd for that ****
          I also noticed him trying to lace the cut Chisora had the other week which I found really pathetic as it was about the only aggressive action he took in that fight.

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          • #25
            Biological rhythmic cycles I suppose.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
              Fury's greatest win is Wlad in the worst heavyweight fight of all time.

              Since then his only so called world level win is Wilder and that guy is one of the worst champions ever.

              So what do we actually know of Fury's level? Nothing.
              Another expert weighs in.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                Cheers man, thanks.

                When Muhammad Ali fought Ken Norton in their rematch. He also after that fight, decided to alter his training, style and approach to being a Heavyweight fighter. The rematch vs Ken Norton II, was the last time? The boxing world truly saw Muhammad Ali, float like a butterfly and string like a bee. Both Norton and Ali were in supreme condition, maybe a tad over trained in my opinion. Muhammad Ali during the post fight interview, you could see was bothered by his performance. Ali was good but? His former float like a butterfly sting like a bee style, was not as potent.

                Note: After Muhamad Ali vs Ken Norton II, Ali altered his style and adapted 'Because he knew that is what he needed to do, to stay competitive in the Heavyweight game. Muhammad Ali became a more static, relied on his guard to block and deflect punches more than just totally evading a punch. He increased his offensive aggression, and physiologically? Muhammad Ali at times was a bigger Heavyweight in terms of overall mass. But even though Muhammad Ali alters his game and style in all those areas, he could still float like a butterfly and sting like a bee if he wanted to. Muhammad Ali during the 1970's, was still skill for skill and athletically a elite level Heavyweight fighter in those areas'.

                To conclude: Tyson Fury similar vs Deontay Wilder I and then Otto Wallin 'Both of those fights were difficult contests. And contrary to certain media narratives? Tyson Fury without a shadow of a doubt did not win the first fight vs Deontay Wilder I. Fighters don't win World titles, by being backed up all night and deck twice once badly. Overall the correct decision was a draw. Fury went from being able out box Wladimir Kiltschko over 12 rounds, to then being embroiled in brutal battles vs Deontay Wilder and Otto Wallin. Fighters who are skill for skill nowhere near any version of Wladimir Kiltschko. This is why Tyson Fury alter his style, and became Kronk Fury' etc.
                Good stuff I enjoyed reading it

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  Fury's greatest win is Wlad in the worst heavyweight fight of all time.

                  Since then his only so called world level win is Wilder and that guy is one of the worst champions ever.

                  So what do we actually know of Fury's level? Nothing.
                  - - Gotta understand Blubber ripped his trunks and was fighting with one hand keeping them from dropping against Wlad.

                  He lost to Wallin' because he and he jiggly tltty Daddy are blowhards blowing the formidable talent and size of Blubber. But of course, Boxing Suits preordained that Blubber must win so he can fight the Deyonce rematch...simples...
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                    Another expert weighs in.
                    You don't have to be an expert to state facts.

                    During Fury's time as WBC champion and later so called lineal, the other champions in the division were:

                    Martin
                    AJ
                    Parker
                    Ruiz
                    AJ again
                    Usyk
                    Wilder

                    AJ has fought everyone bar Wilder on that list...Fury fought only Wilder over a period of something like 3 years, then finally fought Usyk when there was no one else left. Fury hasn't even unified belts before.

                    So maybe I am an expert compared to you.

                    Thanks for coming.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by NihonJim View Post
                      I know he got cut early, bad luck but still, Wallin is absolute trash and Fury should have been able to just step over his front foot and **** him out of there in a couple of rounds once the cut happened.

                      Was there some style issue or is fury simply just that inconsistent.



                      Because Wallin who was no better than a bottom level top ten heavyweight the best exposed Fury's lack of ability. Fury's career is built upon fighting stiffs, old men, and fat meatballs, while cheating with PED's and fouling and being deducted points five times in five separate fights. All of the above is true. He also had the judges incorrectly award him as the winner in one of the fat John McDermott fights.


                      Now Fury has some ability as is / was a top 5 heavyweight ( I say 3 or 4 ) in his era / timeline of 2017-2025.​
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