Why did Fury struggle with Wallin?

[paulf]

Fury is highly overrated and inconsistent and lazy. He got dropped by and, round by round, should have lost to the MMA debutante... If he beat Ngannou, it was on the strength of ONE extra jab being scored over a cut opened from an uppercut..

His hype is based on what? Beating a washed Klitschko while on PEDs, while Klitschko threw a career low number of punches? Deontay Wilder, who was never skilled, but still dropped him several times across their trilogy (which was admittedly fun to watch)?

Pretty much this. People on NSB will tell you Wilder was a bum in on breath, and then tell you Fury is an ATG heavyweight with another.

So Fury's status as a great heavyweight is entirely based on a single win over an aged Klitschko? Who had struggled against a complete hypejob in his previous outing, and was then punched into retirement in his next bout?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fury still beats everybody active except usyk. Shame, he is to lazy to come back and beat some asses.

[BirdSong]

i would say because boxers are not machines and go up and down at times i cant see wallin beating vlad or wilder so it is what it is every guy will have issues with other fightersw if u look closely at it

[PRvazquez]

Lack of power and brute strength. Tyson Fury is a Super Heavyweight fighter, but? He does not have Super Heavyweight power. Tyson Fury has never been a fighter who at top level, can turn a fight around in an instant. The only single time Tyson Fury has been able to do this, at a fairly solid level was against Dillian Whyte. And you could tell by how Tyson Fury and his team celebrated? That they did not expect such a knockout to occur in that fight.

I believe it was Toney Bellew who stated in the aftermath of that fight in his own words of course 'Heavyweight punchers, real monster punchers. Don't celebrate knockouts the way Tyson Fury and his team did vs Dillian Whyte'.

I have always regarded that knockout of Tyson Fury's vs Dillian Whyte 'As a fluke knockout. And trust me? Tyson Fury needed something in that fight to actually separate himself from Dillian Whyte. There was nothing in the fight in my opinion, and although Whyte was not winning the fight. He was competitive, and able to push Tyson Fury in most of the rounds. Fury was doing nothing much, fighting off the back foot. But because this was Tyson Fury, the media tried their upmost best to convince the surface level casual viewers that Tyson Fury was producing a skill for skill master class of boxing'.

Tyson Fury struggled against Otto Wallin because? Wallin skill for skill is actually a solid fighter, and he is rather durable up until a certain level. Tyson Fury is a great fighter, and he is one of the three heavyweight mountains of this era. But fundamentally as a fighter, he is clumsy and prone to making unforced errors in all of his fights at top level.

Therefore against Otto Wallin, stylistically the fight was in retrospect potentially always going to be abit of a difficult fight for Fury 'Because Tyson Fury does not have the offensive skill and power of a fighter like Anthony Joshua. Otto Wallin in that stylistically match up, at his best? May bring to the surface of Fury's game, his innate clumsiness and propensity to make unforced errors over the distance'.

Tyson Fury also has never really been able to bull fighters, who he did not outweigh by 40 to 50 + pounds 'Historically the only fighters Tyson Fury has fought on the the front foot, and won against in impressive fashion. Were Deontay Wilder II and Steve USS Cunningham, that is it. Tyson Fury outweighed both of those fighters by 40 + pounds. To be specific Fury out weight Deontey Wilder by 42 pounds, and Steve USS Cunningham by 44 pounds'.

Note: Tyson Fury fought Wladimir Kiltschko on the back foot; he was backed up for almost the entire 12 rounds of the fight. Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora three times, in the first fight? Tyson Fury fought an agressive front foot fight, and was battered by Derek Chisora in a competitive fight. The reaming two fights of the trilogy Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora on the back foot. Tyson Fury fought Francis Ngannou on the back foot, after first deciding to come out aggressively but? Francis Ngannou soon decked him, and forced Fury to alter his tactics.

And of course most recently Tyson Fury lost two fights back to back vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'And in both fights, Oleksandr Uysk was the stronger front foot fighter. Uysk bulled Fury in the first fight and smashed him up in round 9. And during the second fight? Tyson Fury although he fought a better fighter fundamentally, Fury was reluctant to charge forward and impose his Super Heavyweight mass. Tyson Fury outweighed Oleksandr Uysk in their rematch by 55 pounds'.

To conclude: So, taking all of those factors into consideration when analysing the fight between Tyson Fury and Otto Wallin 'Fury did not outweigh Wallin by 40 + pounds. And Otto Wallin fundamentally was a solid fighter. Tyson Fury vs Otto Wallin weighed in at 254 pounds vs 236 pounds of Otto Wallin. Tyson Fury only outweighed Wallin by 18 pounds, which is vast amount of weight for certain fighters. But it was not a big enough weight differential for Tyson Fury to bull Otto Wallin on fight night'.

It was only after this fight did? Tyson Fury decides to embrace being a super heavyweight 'That fight was the last time Fury, weighed in at under 260 pounds. And I have always been of the opinion, that this was a tactical career move by Tyson Fury. Up until that point in Fury's comeback? He had been trying to duplicate his former old school Riddler style and conditioning. But Tyson Fury was no longer training with Peter Fury, who was the boxing coach who refined that style of Fury's'.

Tyson Fury before his rematch vs Deontay Wilder II 'Made the conscious decision to alter his approach to training and fighting. Fury went from weighing 254 pounds, to 273 pounds vs Deontay Wilder II'.

Tyson Fury just before he fought Deontay Wilder II 'Was interviewed by Gareth A. Davies. Fury stated in this interview 'That he had altered his training, and approach to being a heavyweight fighter. This was the moment in boxing history, were Kronk Fury appeared'.

So, overall the reason why Tyson Fury struggled against Otto Wallin 'Was because stylistically Fury was not strong enough in the areas of his game, at that stage of his career to bull Otto Wallin. Fury was still in the process of trying to duplicate his former old school Riddler style and conditioning. Otto Wallin was durable enough to withstand Fury's power, and skill for skill he was good enough to make the rounds competitive' etc.

Props homie amazing analysis

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The cut, overtrained, struggled with the southpaw stance and didn’t have the power to discourage Wallin.

[billeau2]

I must have watched a different fight. I never saw Wallin do much once he cut fury and fury seemed to win every round after. Yes he fights to the level of his competition... Ali did the same thing and he is no slouch.

[pollywog]

The cut, overtrained, struggled with the southpaw stance and didn’t have the power to discourage Wallin.

I'll buy that for a dollar!

[elfag]

Wallin was dirty did you see the replay when he shoved his thumb in furys cut trying to open it more? He should get DQ'd for that ****

[elfag]

Fury still beats everybody active except usyk. Shame, he is to lazy to come back and beat some asses.

Yeah that is the thing, end of the day hes the second best boxer. He would probably beat Usyk if he had taken care of his body the way Usyk takes care of his. His years of yoyo dieting and partial commitment have taken a toll yet he is still second place.

Who cares if he fought so and so on the back foot or doesnt have one punch KO power, he beats a lot of those guys that do. Dubois or AJ spark out wallin but they would lose to Fury.

[champion4ever]

Wallin was a different fighter back then. He was a lot hungrier, fresher and younger. Today he is older, shopworn and broken.