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  • #31
    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

    floyd vs pac didnt happen until 5 or so years later from the original talks..

    and bena and his pops running their mouth will definitely not land them the fight with canelo..

    canelo has put in the work to get to where he's at, so he's not gonna allow someone like bena tells him who and when to fight.

    you call it a duck, i call it a chest move. mark my words, canelo will fight bena before he retires.
    Was PAC or Floyd mando’s ?????

    and bena and his pops running their mouth will definitely not land them the fight with canelo..

    ^^^^^^^ this is just childish and if your going to resort to that as an explanation………

    This is what’s funny , I got nothing against Canelo but just drop the belts then and do wtv the fugh he wants
    I think you’ll agree that he don’t need belts to fight the likes of Berlanga or Munguia
    Drop the belts and no one can say anything or be held accountable for it

    Wanna bet now that Canelo will never fight Benny ???
    He'd have to be an imbecile to age himself out lmao

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    • #32
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

      there's a place and time for everything... like i said, you cant fight them all!! so is it a duck because "this fighter didnt fight that fighter"? you have to look at his overall resume. he put the work in early to get to the position where he is at now. you dont get there by "ducking".. come on man!! i know fans are mad at canelo because canelo wont fight their fav fighter but that's not consider ducking.
      I don't know if looking at Canelo's overall resume, really looking at it, helps out in this argument. He made his name picking off past their prime legends who were 35 or older. Took a belt at MW, but when it came time to defend that belt against the other top MW....he marinated him until he was over the hill as well. Truth is, if you look at his overall resume, then get rid of guys who were over 35, who is his best win? Plant? Jacobs? And its not as if he was avoided, or some boogey man. He was the one in control and making this happen.

      Now, combine that with what he has done with Benavidez thus far, that does not add up well for 'overall resume.' Which is a shame, because I think Canelo is a great fighter; I'd bet on him to beat Benavidez if they fought right now. Just that his resume, when you take into account age of opponents, isnt as great as it seems on the surface.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

        Was PAC or Floyd mando’s ?????

        and bena and his pops running their mouth will definitely not land them the fight with canelo..

        ^^^^^^^ this is just childish
        and if your going to resort to that as an explanation………

        This is what’s funny , I got nothing against Canelo but just drop the belts then and do wtv the fugh he wants
        I think you’ll agree that he don’t need belts to fight the likes of Berlanga or Munguia
        Drop the belts and no one can say anything or be held accountable for it

        Wanna bet now that Canelo will never fight Benny ???
        He'd have to be an imbecile to age himself out lmao
        it's childish, call it what you want.. i am only the messenger. history repeat itself and it has shown that a fighter who runs his mouth will usually not get the fight he wanted. i didnt make this up, im just reminding you of what has happened in the past with fighters who run their mouth...

        sure, let's make a friendly bet. I say canelo will fight bena before canelo retires... once again, history repeats itself and we have seen this played out with other big fights from the past.
        Last edited by IceTrayDaGang; 02-11-2025, 04:27 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

          I don't know if looking at Canelo's overall resume, really looking at it, helps out in this argument. He made his name picking off past their prime legends who were 35 or older. Took a belt at MW, but when it came time to defend that belt against the other top MW....he marinated him until he was over the hill as well. Truth is, if you look at his overall resume, then get rid of guys who were over 35, who is his best win? Plant? Jacobs? And its not as if he was avoided, or some boogey man. He was the one in control and making this happen.

          Now, combine that with what he has done with Benavidez thus far, that does not add up well for 'overall resume.' Which is a shame, because I think Canelo is a great fighter; I'd bet on him to beat Benavidez if they fought right now. Just that his resume, when you take into account age of opponents, isnt as great as it seems on the surface.
          you can say he fought past prime fighters, etc... why isnt anyone else doing the same then to get to where canelo is at if it was that easy? let's break down canelo's resume..

          im only going to mention the names that are worth mentioning. mosley, floyd, cotto, GGG (3x), kovalev (2x), bivol. that's just to name a few...

          now let's look at what Benavidez has done? there's not a single name on his resume that is worth mentioning. Plant? who canelo already destroyed.... see this is what i am talking about... fans are quick to call a fighter a duck but look at the other fighter's resume who they are accusing canelo of ducking! LOL.

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          • #35
            Cinco de Inuoe
            The Monster is Taking Over Vegas
            Only if Bam RodriguRodriguezed 122 pound, it would be huge.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

              it's childish, call it what you want.. i am only the messenger. history repeat itself and it has shown that a fighter who runs his mouth will usually not get the fight he wanted. i didnt make this up, im just reminding you of what has happened in the past with fighters who run their mouth...

              sure, let's make a friendly bet. I say canelo will fight bena before canelo retires... once again, history repeats itself and we have seen this played out with other big fights from the past.
              Ce I actually read your posts and enjoy them so no hard feelings but I gotta call it thé way I see it

              Your absolutely right that history repeats itself but Canelo refusing to fight atm Benny now , sorry it won’t happen in the future unless Benny is the second incarnation of Spence
              The only way he’d fight him is if Benny gets a beating and I mean beating that he ain’t no more the same
              A Beterbiev kind of beating lol

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              • #37
                Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                Ce I actually read your posts and enjoy them so no hard feelings but I gotta call it thé way I see it

                Your absolutely right that history repeats itself but Canelo refusing to fight atm Benny now , sorry it won’t happen in the future unless Benny is the second incarnation of Spence
                The only way he’d fight him is if Benny gets a beating and I mean beating that he ain’t no more the same
                A Beterbiev kind of beating
                lol
                see this is what i dont get... ya say canelo is ducking bena and is scare of bena and will only fight bena when bena is damage goods... but i just posted the names who canelo has fought and some of those names were supposed to make canelo leave in a body bag after the fight and then we all saw what happened after the fight... (kovalev x2), GGG x3)...

                bena is not who ya making him out to be.. bena's last few wins are all from UD!! even against plant who canelo stopped!! come on man, make it make sense for me because i am not getting what ya seeing here??? bena is going to put a beating on canelo?? like how he did to morrell, gvozdyk, andrade, plant???? come on man!! the fool last KO was back in 2017!!! LOL!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                  see this is what i dont get... ya say canelo is ducking bena and is scare of bena and will only fight bena when bena is damage goods... but i just posted the names who canelo has fought and some of those names were supposed to make canelo leave in a body bag after the fight and then we all saw what happened after the fight... (kovalev x2), GGG x3)...

                  bena is not who ya making him out to be.. bena's last few wins are all from UD!! even against plant who canelo stopped!! come on man, make it make sense for me because i am not getting what ya seeing here??? bena is going to put a beating on canelo?? like how he did to morrell, gvozdyk, andrade, plant???? come on man!! the fool last KO was back in 2017!!! LOL!!!
                  Canelo has 2 fughin Ko’s in 6 years
                  Don’t even go there brother , honestly
                  Since his tainted meat went away we actually started seeing him box
                  Why do you think ???
                  Benny to me is nothing special but I still believe he lays it on cinnamon and hard
                  Are you gambler ??? Fights like this are the reason why we gamble
                  Why are the odds -$3000 vs Scull ???
                  Convince me why that is cause bookies and their sharks are rarely wrong
                  If they were Vegas wouldn’t exist

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                    Canelo has 2 fughin Ko’s in 6 years
                    Don’t even go there brother , honestly
                    Since his tainted meat went away we actually started seeing him box
                    Why do you think ???
                    Benny to me is nothing special but I still believe he lays it on cinnamon and hard
                    Are you gambler ??? Fights like this are the reason why we gamble
                    Why are the odds -$3000 vs Scull ???
                    Convince me why that is cause bookies and their sharks are rarely wrong
                    If they were Vegas wouldn’t exist
                    yes, but im not the one making claims that canelo is gonna put a beating on bena so bad!! YOU said bena will put a beating on canelo so bad!! so im just letting you know that bena hasnt put a beating on anyone since 2017!!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                      you can say he fought past prime fighters, etc... why isnt anyone else doing the same then to get to where canelo is at if it was that easy? let's break down canelo's resume..

                      im only going to mention the names that are worth mentioning. mosley, floyd, cotto, GGG (3x), kovalev (2x), bivol. that's just to name a few...

                      now let's look at what Benavidez has done? there's not a single name on his resume that is worth mentioning. Plant? who canelo already destroyed.... see this is what i am talking about... fans are quick to call a fighter a duck but look at the other fighter's resume who they are accusing canelo of ducking! LOL.
                      Nobody else does it, because few have the opportunity. Canelo had GBP promoting him and he was the cash cow. He had the best promotion and group behind him. They did a masterful job managing his career, and if thats the criteria you want to use to evaluate (career management) then he is an ATG. But most simply dont have that opportunity. That being written, all those names you claimed were worth mentioning, save for Bivol, were 35 or older when he fought them; thats the point.

                      My favorite fighter right now is Bam Rodriguez, he lucked his way into his first big fight, but a lot of people have accused him of doing the same. Difference is, he is still young and can go on and fight big names while in their prime. If he ends up marinating them, then unfortunately he will deserve the same criticism

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