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  • #51
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    mosley? come on now he was 0-3-1 in his 4 fights before canelo, unranked at 154, was 40 years old, etc...thats not worth mentioning at all. that was the definition of a cherry pick but you can see why guys like canelo do it because people just see the name and think oh thats a legit fight, except it wasnt. it would be like benavidez fighting roy jones jr or something. big name! no...

    and no one is saying benavidez has a resume equal to canelo, but he clearly had the best resume of anyone at 168 when canelo ducked him, and now he has the best resume at 175 besides bivol and beterbiev.

    accuse canelo of ducking? he ducked and he ducked hard. are you saying he didnt? benavidez was literally #1 in the ring rankings for 4 years and canelo never fought him but he fought guys like yildram, charlo moving up 2 divisions, ryder, scull, etc...he also said he needed 200 million dollars to fight him aka he wont fight him since he knew that wouldnt happen, he also told benavidez to beat plant to get the fight, benavidez beat plant...he didnt fight him. canelo aint telling scull to beat plant now is he? i dont think you can get a clearer case of a duck. well maybe canelo-ggg when canelo dropped the belt, invented his own divisoin to hide from ggg, etc...they are pretty close.

    do you really think its so hard to think fighters are scared of other fighters? canelo knew benavidez was too tough for him otherwise he would have fought him. he coudlnt wait for him to turn older like he did with ggg so he simply never fought him. of course this would make him look bad if he simply said im scared but since hes a narassist and its essentially his job to promote himself as some kind of top boxer but the truth is he didnt want to find out if he was the top boxer because people like you give him a pass for fighting a lot of good fights in the past which is another way of saying hes just coasting off his name, its akin to jurassic park 6 or whatever coming out, its going to suck but they can make money off of it cause some of the other ones were good, canelo is doing the same thing but in boxing.
    tell bena to start calling out bivol... why wont he do that??? i think if bena beat bivol, that will guarantee him a fight with canelo... but you know bena wont call bivol out because bena want that canelo payday.. be honest about it!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
      just stop it!! bena has nothing on canelo.
      dude canelo is still hiding behind his sofa someone forgot to tell him the bena morell fight is over hahahahaha

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      • #53
        Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

        tell bena to start calling out bivol... why wont he do that??? i think if bena beat bivol, that will guarantee him a fight with canelo... but you know bena wont call bivol out because bena want that canelo payday.. be honest about it!
        He did, and has. Maybe pay attention next time. He said if Canelo won't fight him, he'll just prove he's better by beating Bivol himself, and Beterbiev as well. And nothing will guarantee him a fight with Canelo, especially not beating the guy who beat Canelo.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

          He did, and has. Maybe pay attention next time. He said if Canelo won't fight him, he'll just prove he's better by beating Bivol himself, and Beterbiev as well. And nothing will guarantee him a fight with Canelo, especially not beating the guy who beat Canelo.
          he's not chasing those fights like how he's chasing the canelo fight! keep it 100.. every chance he gets, he brings up canelo, not bivol, not beterbiev... why dont you just admit that bena want that canelo payday just like how ya saying TC only wanna fight canelo because he wants that payday.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

            he's not chasing those fights like how he's chasing the canelo fight! keep it 100.. every chance he gets, he brings up canelo, not bivol, not beterbiev... why dont you just admit that bena want that canelo payday just like how ya saying TC only wanna fight canelo because he wants that payday.
            Of course he wants the payday. Most of the fighters around that weight want the payday. But he's made it pretty clear by taking on the fights he needed to at 175 to get set for fighting the champ at 175 that he's not going to wait around for that payday. And who's Crawford fighting while he waits for his payday? Oh yeah, nobody.

            The fact that you don't understand that fighting two ranked opponents to get two mandatory shots at an opponent, after having earned a mandatory shot and waited for 3 years while the champ ducked you to fight less deserving competition is fundamentally different in every way from barely beating a guy in your debut at 154 and then sitting out for a year and letting your requested title shot lapse while holding up the division says EVERYTHING. Don't get me wrong, I'll be rooting for Crawford to pull out a miracle come September. But facts are that one of those fighters has been fighting for his shot at whatever belts he can get, and the other has barely been fighting at all and squandering his momentum.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

              disagree.. fighters today dont wanna put in the work... they just wanna fight the champion right away!! instead of bena asking for a canelo payday, why dont he start calling out bivol??? you know the guy who beat canelo... why?? because bena want that canelo pay day!! win or lose, he's gonna get paid well fighting canelo... at least be honest about it!!!
              When I say 'Nobody does it today...' it was referring to your post about why dont others follow Canelos path of building their names fighting post prime legends. I believe you recognize that.

              So, my point is still valid. Most fighters dont have the opportunity to fight so many aged HOFers and build their names doing so. Canelo benefitted from GBP building him up and getting him big name fights against old fighters. He continued the trend with GGG and Kovalev once he was already a big name.

              There can only be so many faces of boxing, so doing this is not available to most fighters.

              Like I wrote, Canelo is a great fighter. But the names on his resume inflate what many think about him, if they dont take into account when they fought.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                yeah, because canelo is known to take damage right?? like how he got beat so bad against GGG right?? just stop it!! bena has nothing on canelo.

                bena has nothing on canelo.

                And yet he Still won’t fight him
                Go figure

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                  a king will have many haters along the way trying to dethrone the king.

                  a king can kill a hyena easily, but it cant kill all the hyenas out there. so call it a duck, i call it luck. the king let him live to see another day.
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                  A king killing hyenas is just a bully and a coward especially when the said hyenas are defenseless. How about the king tries to kill a lion or a monster?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

                    tell bena to start calling out bivol... why wont he do that??? i think if bena beat bivol, that will guarantee him a fight with canelo... but you know bena wont call bivol out because bena want that canelo payday.. be honest about it!
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                    Why do you think Benny moved to 175? To fight guys like Charlo, Munguia or Berlanga or Scull?

                    Benny wasn’t going to waste his career waiting for a guy that’s afraid to fight him that’s why he moved up to 175. He fought Morrel who also moved up because Canelo was afraid to fight him too.

                    Benny is set to fight the winner of Bivol -Beterbiev. This is something you know so when you ask why he doesn’t call out Bivol, you are just shifting goal posts.

                    Just so we are clear, I am a Canelo fan but also a boxing fan first and a duck is a duck. There is no shame in Canelo admitting he is afraid of Benny. He will still go down as an ATG.
                    Last edited by Oregonian; 02-12-2025, 02:49 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                      A king killing hyenas is just a bully and a coward especially when the said hyenas are defenseless. How about the king tries to kill a lion or a monster?
                      its a strange sport that inspires zealots to make so many excuses for their Hero yet canelo is only a self annointed king and the reason is simply he has so many fans and thats it, this goes to their heads and they develop into the typical a sider guy who just like to dictate and dictate to all opponents or potential opponents and gets away with it as well and the really weird thing is all these defenders of his have b een giving out about other guys who do much less than their hero LOL they just cant even see it
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