Comments Thread For: Alexander Povetkin serving four-year ban after the discovery of unreported PED violation

[IronDanHamza]

Nothing to see here.

Fighters getting these "bans" post retirement is irrelevant. It's them making it look like they've done something when they've actually done nothing.

Exact same scenario with Amir Khan and his post retirement "ban".

[billeau2]

You called it cheating. If it was such a problem, wouldn't boxing do something about it? I said it was cause for concern in how he makes all that weight back. But as long as he fulfills the contract, then he's done all he needs on his end.

Ryan wasn't acting that way when the fight was first discussed. Only when they were deep in camp with people thinking Ryan was trying to get out of the fight.

Tell me what Haney said. Go on. Quote him. Or is that bullying you?

I never said you said Ryan was clean. You f3cking prat. You must have read that from inside your mind again like so much of the insanity you've come out with.

I'm giving you examples of those who come in over weight and why. it's what normal people do when an idiot thinks he can make it all up to suit.

Haney only made the fight when Ryan was full on with his crazy shlt? Is that correct?

Quote Haney saying he had the advantage over Ryan after the weigh-in?

Lol thats right Siddy walk it back slowlllly. Now it is boxing's fault? that Haney, like many fighters will game the system at all costs? And the point is haney did not honor the contract. He took the fight when Ryan was not able to give adequate exchange. Contracts are based on immanent or expressed exchange. If I say Sid is going to take me to the prom and I will show up as a 120 pound blonde, we have a sort of verbal contract. If I show up at 130 pounds? the exchange is off... You have a justification for cancelling the date... See thepoint here? You can be a good guy, or you can say to yourself "Well she is still a looker, I can still be the envy of the other guys" BUT when you take that view in a sense your hands are now dirty... You are taking advantage of something... NO it is not illegal, or even that bad... But you see the issue here? Come on humor me and learn something...

Haney saw an advantage so he took the fight. Do you really believe he thought for a moment "Ryan is almost my weight! he will murda me! But but alas, for boxing, for country, for hood, I must represent and take this fight..." Now... I grant you anything is possible... we do not know what another person thinks... But as a betting man, what would you place money on?

The other crap in this post... is crap. Are you that dumb you think Haney would say he thought he had an advantage? sigh... your not to bright kiddo...

[billeau2]

Give me an example of me gaslighting you if i do it all the time? Or are you going to go on another deranged rant where you refuse to because i'm a "Bully" who isn't intelligent enough to understand?

Oh i understand alright. I understand you can't justify anything you say. That's where you show just how big your narcissistic behaviours actually are. Instead of just saying you got it wrong like a normal person would. Your huge ego couldn't take it so the insanity came out.

I was talking in general with Wilder you dipshlt. I never said you as such. But that's the gist of things. Anybody who knows about Heavyweight history wouldn't come close to saying this is one of the weakest ever or that it's weak. Anyone who does has bought into the propaganda you lot have spewed over the years and are clearly trying to discredit it to make your eras look stronger. I mean, Americans are so basic to understand. It doesn't take an intellect to know what they're getting at. All you have to be is good and you lot go on the attack like a spiteful plastic from high school. You forget i grew up with all this slander over the years. So much so, i couldn't wait for forums when i heard about what the internet was. But f3ck me, you're even worse than i first thought. You have an international reputation for a reason.

Examples? Just look at any post you make lol. usually prefaced with some comment regarding the poster. Are you really that tone deaf? Cannot read the room? Amnd to be crystal clear... I am not referring to my posts! I am talking to your general posts, the tone you take, the need to ridicule. You cannot be so unaware...

See the bolded? Now yes, responding to me, as I have called you out, fine... BUT THIS IS HOW YOU RESPOND IN GENERAL! Lol. That is gaslighting... "Why you must be subject to propoganda to believe this is a weak division..." Do you see it? At least learn something from this exchange. Sheesh. Not even going into the vitrolic, prejudiced statements against Americans you start up with... making you a nationalist and an idiotic chauvanist.

This is why you are getting it Sid my boy!!! Grow up!! learn not to attack when you post. previously I gave you a lot of latitude right? But when you just jumped in gaslighting with your nationalist BS, defending Duggum!! You crossed my line.

[billeau2]

And i was just pointing out that he had a point and gave you two examples of fighters who were cast off as punchers until they stepped up and their stoppages came to a halt. Then all the ones who called them punchers started claiming they couldn't punch themselves out of a paper bag. That's a huge turn around. Wouldn't you think? So yeah, power does depend on who their opponent is.

If you cannot see the need for a distinction to be made regarding this statement then so be it... Not worth arguing about.

[Sid-Knee]

Again confusing legal illegal with ethical unethical. Ryan looked like a clown whom was depressed and easy pickings lol. No assumptions at all. Haney said as much before the fight. I never said Ryan was clean... It does not matter you ful! Look at you trying to use nonsense to justify your ridiculous assertion about Devin! Messicans? What do they, and what does a fighter trying hard to make weight and failing to do so, and the price of tea in China have to do with haney's very specific situation regarding Ryan...

Listen dope... Haney knows "I will still have weight advantage," He thinks Ryan is in crisis mode, he sees an opportunity to take the fight with less risk if anything so he does.... Really simple right? Your claiming that Haney considered that Ryan had an advantage!!! Nonsense!!! You are a ful plus one! What this has to do with Corrales? you painted yourself in a corner, not my fault stop you are embarrising yourself... I gave you another misspelling ok?

You called it cheating. If it was such a problem, wouldn't boxing do something about it? I said it was cause for concern in how he makes all that weight back. But as long as he fulfills the contract, then he's done all he needs on his end.

Ryan wasn't acting that way when the fight was first discussed. Only when they were deep in camp with people thinking Ryan was trying to get out of the fight.

Tell me what Haney said. Go on. Quote him. Or is that bullying you?

I never said you said Ryan was clean. You f3cking prat. You must have read that from inside your mind again like so much of the insanity you've come out with.

I'm giving you examples of those who come in over weight and why. it's what normal people do when an idiot thinks he can make it all up to suit.

Haney only made the fight when Ryan was full on with his crazy shlt? Is that correct?

Quote Haney saying he had the advantage over Ryan after the weigh-in?

[Sid-Knee]

You gaslight constantly... Not just me, it is part of your posting behavior. Read your typical post. Yes I did gas lamp you! Again read the post... I am giving it back to you. Yes I have been doing it! LOl. Again I gave you the reason lol. Emotional narcissist lol... you have not a clue about such afflictions.

No an Ad Hominem attack is not answering a question with an insult... there is more to it that makes it a distinct type of insult.

You could not carry Willow's jock strap if you had a digger Gimp... It figures you do not understand that. No surprise there! Discredits European fighters to you... you have no perspective whatsoever.

Gimp, what is gibberish to you is precisely because you lack the capacity to understand the sport past a very basic level. I never based my analysis of Wilder on the division, and I never said it was hot... Red Herring alert.

Sorry Gimp I ain't done with you yet!

Give me an example of me gaslighting you if i do it all the time? Or are you going to go on another deranged rant where you refuse to because i'm a "Bully" who isn't intelligent enough to understand?

Oh i understand alright. I understand you can't justify anything you say. That's where you show just how big your narcissistic behaviours actually are. Instead of just saying you got it wrong like a normal person would. Your huge ego couldn't take it so the insanity came out.

I was talking in general with Wilder you dipshlt. I never said you as such. But that's the gist of things. Anybody who knows about Heavyweight history wouldn't come close to saying this is one of the weakest ever or that it's weak. Anyone who does has bought into the propaganda you lot have spewed over the years and are clearly trying to discredit it to make your eras look stronger. I mean, Americans are so basic to understand. It doesn't take an intellect to know what they're getting at. All you have to be is good and you lot go on the attack like a spiteful plastic from high school. You forget i grew up with all this slander over the years. So much so, i couldn't wait for forums when i heard about what the internet was. But f3ck me, you're even worse than i first thought. You have an international reputation for a reason.

[Sid-Knee]

Lol. I was just quoting your twin... But thank you for clarifying that issue regarding power! Lol.

And i was just pointing out that he had a point and gave you two examples of fighters who were cast off as punchers until they stepped up and their stoppages came to a halt. Then all the ones who called them punchers started claiming they couldn't punch themselves out of a paper bag. That's a huge turn around. Wouldn't you think? So yeah, power does depend on who their opponent is.

[billeau2]

Yeah, to what they weighed on fight night. If it mattered in boxing, don't you think they'd have a weigh-in on fight night by the rules? But they don't. So no, it doesn't matter.

Haney was the one who thought he had an advantage with Ryan being overweight? Ryan looked strong and didn't look depleted. So you're making assumptions again. Ryan has already said he did it on purpose. Haney would then go on to try and convince himself otherwise so not to get spooked out of the fight. It's like when a shot fighter tells you they're in the best shape they've ever been in even though it's all bullshlt. They say these things to convince themselves. It's about reading a situation properly. You can't even f3cking read a simple sentence so don't worry yourself.

Yeah, the many Mexicans over the years who didn't make the limit are the ones who are at the disadvantage. It's not like they're doing it so they don't boil down to the contracted weight and take too much out of themselves like their opponent to gain an advantage to try and get the win like Catillo did against Corrales. Haha. No, it was Corrales who had the advantage. Bill, you're mad. Proper scary. I didn't think you were this bad to be honest. But then again, i've never gone to work on you like this before. But i'm glad i did. You're all the way detached when it comes down to it.

Again confusing legal illegal with ethical unethical. Ryan looked like a clown whom was depressed and easy pickings lol. No assumptions at all. Haney said as much before the fight. I never said Ryan was clean... It does not matter you ful! Look at you trying to use nonsense to justify your ridiculous assertion about Devin! Messicans? What do they, and what does a fighter trying hard to make weight and failing to do so, and the price of tea in China have to do with haney's very specific situation regarding Ryan...

Listen dope... Haney knows "I will still have weight advantage," He thinks Ryan is in crisis mode, he sees an opportunity to take the fight with less risk if anything so he does.... Really simple right? Your claiming that Haney considered that Ryan had an advantage!!! Nonsense!!! You are a ful plus one! What this has to do with Corrales? you painted yourself in a corner, not my fault stop you are embarrising yourself... I gave you another misspelling ok?

[Sid-Knee]

Sigh... yes Warloon junior you have been knockin em dead. And I am the queen of the stardust ballroom! Pretty soon we will see you start calling out spelling errors! I put some of em in there for ya! thank me later! You would not know a disorder if you looked in the mirror and the mirror screamed "DISORDER!!!" at you, which I would bet it does.

You do not just ask for reaasons (here is a misspelling for you!) and explanations... You ignore reason and then create a diatribe of red herrings and demand that someone address them. You try to divert because you lack the intelligence to understand the levels to the game involvingtheissues discussed.

How could i ignore reason when you didn't give any reasons? You just went on a mad spree of nonsense. That's when you came out with the "Why should i have to explain my comments". You don't do that if you think you've given a reasonable answer. You do that when you know i'm not letting you off the hook. But what is it i now am... Ahh, that's it. A bully. Hahahaha. Your ego is out of control. You take no responsibility what-so-ever. But it is a trait of a narcissist.

More projection and gaslighting. I lack the intelligence to understand? You're f3cking proper crazy, do you know that? You're actually creepy. I need to tell you that.

[Sid-Knee]

Your words "Does it really matter?" Haney is an adult with the capacity to decide things. He thought bhe could take (and gain) an advantage outside of the contract agreed upon. That is a fact. You have to be desperate to argue that Poor Devin was manipulated by public perception... Ful! he was manipulated by his father, and he saw an opportunity. Seriously? Have I broke you kid?

More low IQ nonsense. There is no clear relationship between him not being in poor condition because he was overweight, if anything the opposite is true! Haney believed it was lol. Since when does a fighter not making weight indicate he is not diminished... I am going to let you pretend you never stated such silliness.

Haney made a decision as an adult based on his self interest and a percieved advantage... Period! This makes him a hustler to a court of law because trying to gain this advantage legally puts him on shakey ground. I am not critisizing him for otherwise taking advantage of Ryan, it is what he does, which is something you would know if you looked at his hydration instead of blindly defending him... Ful!

Yeah, to what they weighed on fight night. If it mattered in boxing, don't you think they'd have a weigh-in on fight night by the rules? But they don't. So no, it doesn't matter.

Haney was the one who thought he had an advantage with Ryan being overweight? Ryan looked strong and didn't look depleted. So you're making assumptions again. Ryan has already said he did it on purpose. Haney would then go on to try and convince himself otherwise so not to get spooked out of the fight. It's like when a shot fighter tells you they're in the best shape they've ever been in even though it's all bullshlt. They say these things to convince themselves. It's about reading a situation properly. You can't even f3cking read a simple sentence so don't worry yourself.

Yeah, the many Mexicans over the years who didn't make the limit are the ones who are at the disadvantage. It's not like they're doing it so they don't boil down to the contracted weight and take too much out of themselves like their opponent to gain an advantage to try and get the win like Catillo did against Corrales. Haha. No, it was Corrales who had the advantage. Bill, you're mad. Proper scary. I didn't think you were this bad to be honest. But then again, i've never gone to work on you like this before. But i'm glad i did. You're all the way detached when it comes down to it.