Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford on the Canelo fight: ?That?s what great fighters are all about"

[Oregonian]

That is what great fighters do, challenge themselves, that's what they did back in decades gone by now. 80's / 90's / 2000's.

There's only a handful of fighters around today that are really about that life,
and that's a disaster. To many fake a.s.s.fighters around.

How can anybody find fault in a dude going for it and challenging himself to be great ?

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That’s why Khan is one of the greatest fighters of his generation - he challenged himself many many times. Only to be knocked the phũck out every time.

[Roadblock]

Why do I have the feeling that if this fight ever happens, it's gonna be boring as f. Canelo won't press, and Crawford gonna look to survive. Bit like Canelo vs Jacob.

That is totally against the default character of both guys its not going to happen like that, Canelo will chase TC will try and counter box with TCs biggest fault being he is eager to mix it up and that can be his downfall, both these guys are warriors at heart.

[BrankoB]

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You know how many other boxers “genuinely believed the could win fights on their own abilities”?
Khan, every time he got KO’d he promised the world he “would come back stronger than ever”.
Canelo, just before he fought Floyd and Bivol.
Plant, just before he fought Canelo and Monster.
Hatton, just before he fought Floyd.
Spence, just before he fought Bud and the greatest of the all is Hopkins who assured us he “would never lose to a white boy”.
The list is super long but I figure a few light work.

Yes ... and? What is your point? I can list just as many boxers who won risky fights in spite of difficult odds. Does not prove anything either way. The future is uncertain and these guys are betting the farm on their skills.

[BirdSong]

there is i would say 20 pounds between these guys really, there are some guys (devin haney) who put on 25 pounds aftr weight in and others im sure as well both bud and canelo are same height as well or close im thinking it will be closer than people think as people over come these odds IF they are good enough and bud is very good soooooooo.......

[1Eriugenus]

Oregonian. Insofar as you are making a point its a ****** point. Yes, if a boxer aspires to greatness he must challenge the best, & usually he will fall short. For every Honeyghan there must be a Hatton, for every Barrera there must be an Ingle. So? I genuinely don't see what point you are trying to make. Surely you are not opposed to young boxers testing themselves against the best? Are you?

[1Eriugenus]

Birdsong, I told you before to STFU

[1Eriugenus]

Crawford has never been very mobile or defensive &, for him to have a chance, he is gonna have to be mobile and defensive. But he is a great fighter & great fighters make changes, whether that be SRL stalking down Hearns, Ali standing in front of Foreman, Barrera standing off & jabbing Hamed, or Hagler throwing everything on Hearns. Great fighters adapt, that is why they're great fighters.

[Oregonian]

Yes ... and? What is your point? I can list just as many boxers who won risky fights in spite of difficult odds. Does not prove anything either way. The future is uncertain and these guys are betting the farm on their skills.

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My point is very simple and clearly, you missed it. This is what you wrote “he genuinely believes he will win on his own abilities”.
How is that a reason for you to believe that? Canelo also believes he will win on his own abilities.
And I gave you a myriad of boxers who also “genuinely believed “ they’d win.
Just because someone believes so is not enough for anyone actually believe they’d win which is what you seem to believe.

[JonDP]

Wow that list of excuses is quite pathetic. Canelo was outboxed by Floyd when he was 23, not 22. And he was already a world champ for 3 years, had beaten several former champs such as cintron and baldomir, a current undefeated champ in trout who had just beat Cotto and a hall of famer in Mosley. Being 23 is always better than 36 in combat sports or nearly any sport for that matter.
For Bivol, Canelo was not severely outweighed. Canelo walked into the ring at 174 when he was 23 for a 155 pound fight. How much do you think he walked into the ring weighting at 33 for a 175 pound fight? He’s short for the weight class but not light. The undertrained and hand injury excuses are just that, weak excuses. Guess it’s easier for Canelo fans to say that than to admit that he just wasn’t good enough, which was the reality.

So your whole rebuttal is Canelo was 23 years old and 3 months instead of 22? Brilliant stuff. Want to know what most boxers do at 23? Fighting people with double-digit losing records, including Crawford. Also, When someone says 'out-weigh' and you disagree, you're supposed to state how much each of them weighed, however it's been conveniently omitted here. A LH like Bivol would enter the ring on fight night north of 190, easily, giving him the advantage on someone coming up from SM. It's just facts.

[steeve steel]

That is totally against the default character of both guys its not going to happen like that, Canelo will chase TC will try and counter box with TCs biggest fault being he is eager to mix it up and that can be his downfall, both these guys are warriors at heart.

For one, Canelo does not chase fighters. And secondly, Crawford will be fighting a bigger man with real power, and he is heading for retirement. I did not see the warrior against Madrimov.