Comments Thread For: The inconvenient truth about failing a PED test

[SteveM]

PEDS are a pesky irritant for promoters. PEDs affect power, resistance and endurance and weight loss. Without peds there'd me more missed weights, less KOs, less slugfests, and more fights where the fighters fight to a standstill - in short boxing would be less of a spectacle. So less tv interest, lest fans, less money. Thats why PEDs are not stamped out.

[RigosPressureCooker]

The inconvenient truth about failing a PED test is that everyone from then on will hate your guts for cheating and not trust you no more.

But because you and your people need money the only thing you'd be able to do is to claim innocence and act smug for the rest of your miserable life.

[tokon]

For starters then "strict liability" enforced so, unless contamination or chain of custody infringement etc can be proven (not claimed) then sanctions should be imposed; for example, first offence minimum 2 year ban plus fine equivalent to purse plus other relevant costs for breach of contract

Also. recognition of nature of boxing, if fight has taken place, no contest declared plus licencing/sanctioning body to pursue criminal charges for assault on behalf of opponent.

Will any of it happen? Not a chance!

ITs blatantly obvious there is no real desire to stamp on ped use in boxing; many promoters, managers, coaches and fighters know what's going on but they all comply with the unofficial "omerta" that surrounds drug use.

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Lest be honest here. PEDs are rampant throughout pro boxing. The toothpaste can't be put back in the tube at this stage. I think the only option is to relax the rules concerning peds and make it a level playing field for all. All but the really most damaging to the fighters health should be legal. That way both fighters will be juiced equally. The danger now is one fighter is clean and the other dirty leading to an unfair playing field. Though I would absolutely ban any peds of any sort in the amateur game. Fighters aged 17 in the Olympics should not be allowed any PEDs. When or if they choose to turn professional and earn money then that is when I would relax the restrictions. PEDs are not the problem, the problem is the unfair playing field that it creates if one fighter remains clean.

[BoxerFreddy]

To make sense, Boxing should at least implement a 3-4yr suspension + loss of full purse... 1yr doesn't change anything for some aging fighters that only boxes once a year anyway, and for Garcia it only means one less fight... If it is 4yrs out it would be way more risky and more of a deterrent. In some other sports in Europe it is typically a 2yr ban first and then a lifetime ban for the 2nd offense....

[57Blues]

Ben Johnson was Canadian. And he humiliated Carl Lewis, an American legend, who himself was on Peds, but because the latter had more money, a better team, better doctors AND was American, he wasn't sanctioned and continued to be revered. This said, here's 2 ways of fixing the Peds problem in boxing: either life ban and/or loss or purse, plus fine of same amount as purse. Voilà! Problem solved.

there are a multitude of ways to extinguish PED's from Boxing but there is one little problem with the solution and that is...........................
Who will impliment it who will go along with the solution to the problem who will even openly admit that it is a problem in Boxing ? The answer is simple no one will even consider doing anything about PED's in Boxing who has the power and ability to stop it from continuing. Boxing answer's to Boxing and no one else. That is just a fact of Boxing.

[57Blues]

Geez Ryan really getting dragged for this. Carnela or his daddy froid didnt even get half the criticism Ryan is getting.

Maybe those two that you mention were not as disguesting and miserable and intolerable as that little twit Ry Garci happens to be..........or maybe you just dont notice how much flack those two other fighters have gotten and get from there PED use......

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Just to give a different perspective on peds in sports and how rampant it is in different sports. Lionel Messi was a notorious user of a banned substance and never served a ban. The banned substance he took was human growth hormone which is highly dangerous and has been banned across nearly all sports since 2004. Messi took copious amounts of it from 2004 until 2012 at least. So this is what the governing bodies are up against. Every Young footballer trying to reach the top will just think look what it done for Messi and take everything hoping it will make them a quarter of the player Messi became.

[IceTrayDaGang]

i dont care about either, but i kinda hope Rolly knocks Garcia out, to shut him up. however unlikely that will happen.

whattttt.. rolly is the one this is annoying!!

[crimsonfalcon07]

If they actually cared, another possible solution would be to make it so legally, popping positive on a PED test means you lose your purse on the first offense, and it would be illegal for a promoter to keep a fighter signed with two offenses on record. Stiff financial penalties would go a long ways. If the boxer was forced to pay the penalties to the state, for instance, it would be easier to get it passed.