Age versus reality ..

[Boxing 112]

Wilder was an incredible puncher against low level opponents and Tyson Fury, who, for all his undoubted talent and ability, was decked multiple times by guys who were definitely not incredible punchers. When Deontay stepped up his level of opposition, suddenly, his power was not so incredible any more. What a coincidence!

"His power was not so incredible anymore" he is def a top 3 puncher all time. You don't win with just power he is not the best boxer obviously but was good at eventually landing the right punch with timing. Name me another heavyweight who knocked 40 opponents out, i know people will argue the calibre of opponents, but even jourmeyman have chins. Look at M Tyson regulatly you will see people claim 80s Tyson or prime Tyson "will KO anyone of any era" yet he went to points 4 times in the later 80s.

Vs Parker and Zhang, he barely landed, he wasn't evem throwing or landing any 1 big clean punch disapprove his power. He basically barely threw and when he did never landed flush full power.

Not here talking about boxing skills but if we are talking pure power he def is top 3. Most these heavyweights weighed a lot more than him as well. The first Fury fight he weighed like 212 still dropped Fury hard and that was in the final round.

[kafkod]

"His power was not so incredible anymore" he is def a top 3 puncher all time. You don't win with just power he is not the best boxer obviously but was good at eventually landing the right punch with timing. Name me another heavyweight who knocked 40 opponents out, i know people will argue the calibre of opponents, but even jourmeyman have chins. Look at M Tyson regulatly you will see people claim 80s Tyson or prime Tyson "will KO anyone of any era" yet he went to points 4 times in the later 80s.

Vs Parker and Zhang, he barely landed, he wasn't evem throwing or landing any 1 big clean punch disapprove his power. He basically barely threw and when he did never landed flush full power.

Not here talking about boxing skills but if we are talking pure power he def is top 3. Most these heavyweights weighed a lot more than him as well. The first Fury fight he weighed like 212 still dropped Fury hard and that was in the final round.

Butterbean had more KOs than Wilder against a similar level of opponent. Yes,the bum squad Wilder was knocking over really were as bad as that! AJ, Daniel Dubois, Zhang, would have as many KO wins as Wilder if they fought the same guys Deontay did.

Wilder did land at least one flush right on Zhang in their fight, and the Big Bang ate it like it was nothing.

[Shrap]

No... The first three things you said are true. I don't know why that follows that make him less than a excellent fighter in a week division.

You agreed with my point that Ortiz never beat anyone great, so there is no proof he was excellent. You don't get called excellent for having a full career without beating a single fighter of note.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Oh Wildee was shot to pieces when he fought top 10 guys in Zhang in Parker what a coincudence lol lol lol..go away with your excuses. 90% of you guys expected him to Ko Parker.

i clearly told you Parker would win every single round to him long before the fight happebed.

[billeau2]

You agreed with my point that Ortiz never beat anyone great, so there is no proof he was excellent. You don't get called excellent for having a full career without beating a single fighter of note.

Semantics... A waste of time.

[MulaKO]

Oh Wildee was shot to pieces when he fought top 10 guys in Zhang in Parker what a coincudence lol lol lol..go away with your excuses. 90% of you guys expected him to Ko Parker.

i clearly told you Parker would win every single round to him long before the fight happebed.

Go away the same way you said you would go away when your master runner Bivol lost ?????
Hmmmmm

[billeau2]

The level of fckery on this thread is laughable... One does not have to declare that Wilder was the second coming to realize he had a devistating punch. One simply needs to use their eyes to watch Wilder's subsequent inability to pull the trigger fighting after Fury. They both took incredible damage.

[billeau2]

Oh Wildee was shot to pieces when he fought top 10 guys in Zhang in Parker what a coincudence lol lol lol..go away with your excuses. 90% of you guys expected him to Ko Parker.

i clearly told you Parker would win every single round to him long before the fight happebed.

Are you and kafkod long lost brothers? "Top ten?" Lol... Out of what? How about Zhang being a fighter who gases in a few rounds, even throwing like 2-4 punches a round? And Parker? He has just started to show the skill to take on A top prospect, or Usyk... Yet you would make such a distinction between these two and Martin, or Stiverne, or Jennings... And forget the fact that Wilder was competative with one of the two top heavyweights.

If Parker losses to Dubois, does a bad job subsequently, I guess that does not count, as your rtarder brother kafkod says "Losses do not count." And touting Zhang is laughable. NOne of these guys have beat Fury, Usyk, Bakole, etc... They are all part of the same mix of failed Euros like the Stiff Croat, etc. Top ten... Lol.

Usyk beat Hunter, a fighter that beat Bakole. That might be worthy... I only resort to this triangle BS to try to make the point aboutb how ridiculous it is to make distinctions based on rankings in a weak division with a few guys who are obviously talented... Parker might yet do something, time will tell.