Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: The Errol Spence comeback and a response to Canelo being too slick for Oleksandr Usyk

[factsarenice]

Turki and Canelo meeting now ! We'll be finding out if Bread is right or is Canelo going to be too skilled for Bud .That's right, I didn't say too big.Too skilled! Bet me .

Canelo isn't going to let that fight happen and if he does....I'll have money on the man from Omaha.

[factsarenice]

Crawford is better than Canelo in a p4p sense but he can't beat Canelo because of the weight difference, Bud is simply too small. Crawford's peak is 154 and just barely. Bud struggled badly with Madrimov, who only had what, 10 or 11 fights? in a super close fight (last 2 rounds is what saved Crawford).

Bud takes his first L if he goes to 160-168. And here's another good example of recent memory, Kell Brook, undefeated, IBF welterweight champion, went up 2 weight classes, from 147, to fight GGG at 160 and got his face broken. Here's another example, Jermell Charlo, who is naturally bigger than Crawford, went up from 154 to 168 to fight Canelo and the little cub got destroyed.

Sorry Bready but Canelo vs Crawford is a joke.

Of course it's a joke, everyone knows Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans. Namsayn?

[Groin Grabber]

They're like a bunch of little girls outraged by somebody saying something negative about their crush, Canelo. If someone doesn't love Canelo or overrate Canelo the way they do, they go crazy. It seems there are lot more women posting on this site than men.

Instead of Playing victim per usual how about you debate and use facts?

Can't cause its easier to play victim huh boy

[Groin Grabber]

Stopped reading him after his saying Email Ennisdidnt duck Ortiz

Yeah bumman just rage baiting. He was almost fired so he gotta keep the views coming. He's a loser

[joseph5620]

Instead of Playing victim per usual how about you debate and use facts?

Can't cause its easier to play victim huh boy

Here's one of those emotional little girls I was referring to. The little girl is still pretending that she's a Crawford fan to hide her racism

[Groin Grabber]

Here's one of those emotional little girls I was referring to. The little girl is still pretending that she's a Crawford fan to hide her racism

Wow you got me. Great insight. Lmfao end of the line for you boy

[IAMTHAT]

Terence Crawford over Canelo Alvarez is a dumb pick


he talks about the madrimov fight doesnt matter because madrimov has a different rhythm than canelo? um what about canelo is a full two weight classes bigger and has fast hands for his size.

look at charlo, he came in there and fought to survive and collect a check.

crawford is too small, look at his frame, its skinny.

I heard this same excuse when I said Usyk beats AJ and Fury when he enters the HW. I see Crawford beating Canelo and I see Canelo seeing what I’m seeing.

And if you know of a duck in boxing, then you know what we all know, there’s a certain Mexican that won’t fight certain fighters and Crawford is one of them that he won’t fight.

[IAMTHAT]

Of course it's a joke, everyone knows Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans. Namsayn?

It’s not Mexicans that bother Canelo, it’s anyone with a chance to beat him that Canelo won’t fight. And He’s not taking any chances with eating Mexican meet again.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Canelo isn't going to let that fight happen and if he does....I'll have money on the man from Omaha.

That's a very contradictive statement!

[richardt]

Hey Breadman, I can fill you in all the details about Jones vs DM, because there is NO ONE and I mean NO ONE who followed that situation, every single article, and every single conversation and every attempt to get that fight made like I followed it.


Little known facts:

1. Murad Muhammad went to Germany to negotiate a fight in Germany between the two and DM's promoter and Universum head Klaus Peter Kohl wanted to pay DM double what they were offering Jones. Jones was being offered the usual 5Mill he normally makes, DM was to get either 8Mill or 10Mill.

2. DM was scheduled to fight Telesco on ESPN to build his brand in the US and Marty Mulcahy even showed the scheduling of the fight on his fight schedule on fight news dot com. DM pulled out because there was not enough money. This was during the time when Telesco was on a major roll.

3. DM was offered a co main event on HBO but declined due to the money.

4. Klaus Peter Kohl was often unavailable for phone calls, this fact was documented through research by fight news dot com.

An article:

In 2001, Roy's advisor Brad Jacobs, met with Kerry Davis VP for HBO, and they tried desperately to make the fight.

Peter Kohl who was DM's advisor was never available to sit down and discuss terms. He was also never available via phone, and he wouldn't even name a figure to get the ball rolling.

HBO also proposed the idea of a double header to hype the fight. A lot of U.S. fans had hardly seen DM fight, so HBO wanted to put both fighters on the same bill, to stir interest in a fight.

This was turned down by Kohl.

If DM and Kohl had've been serious about a fight, they never would have turned down that opportunity.

Murad Muhammad gave an interview in 2003, and he said that DM was asking for a $6M purse, and he was making between $1-1.5M per fight in Germany.

According to a recent interview with Roy from June only a few years ago, HBO actually offered him DM $5M, and he turned it down.

All you have to do, is go and look at DM's resume, to see how serious he was about fighting the likes of Roy, Tarver and Harding etc. He never left his comfort zone in Germany. He was happy defending his WBO belt for decent money against C class, even fighters which had already been beaten easily by Roy.

If DM and Kohl had wanted Roy bad enough, they'd have agreed to the HBO double header, which was a great idea, and then afterwards they'd have had a superfight.

Instead they turned down the opportunity to instead fight Hall, Harmon and De Grandis.

That's how bad they wanted Roy.

They turned down $5M for Roy, to fight Joey De Grandis for $1-1.5M.

DM was all talk. His resume tells you what his intentions were. The best fighter in the world shouldn't have had to have gone to Germany in 2001, ESPECIALLY based on being the victim of the worst robbery in HISTORY of the Olympics the last time he was in front of foreign judges in a foreign country getting flat out robbed in Korea.