Comments Thread For: BoxingScene: Our biggest boxing gripes from 2024

[OnePunch]

Same as it is, for me, every year -

Boxing is still not a sport
Keeps it's score a secret
In fact, has no real scoring system other than a knockdown
Still has no retirement fund in place for those who retire
Doesn't regulate roid usage (roids are not the demons fans make them out to be)
Judges still have the worst POV in the entire arena.

Same ol, same ol.

very few "individual" type sports have those plans, because it is next to impossible to fund them, or to determine who would be eligible. Team sports are different, due to the economic structure. As far as individual sports go, tennis is the only one I can think of that has some sort of retirement plan, but even then its only for players who were on the PGA Tour a minimum of 15 years, and made the cut at least 15 times a year.

[MalevolentBite]

very few "individual" type sports have those plans, because it is next to impossible to fund them, or to determine who would be eligible. Team sports are different, due to the economic structure. As far as individual sports go, tennis is the only one I can think of that has some sort of retirement plan, but even then its only for players who were on the PGA Tour a minimum of 15 years, and made the cut at least 15 times a year.

That's not true, boxing probably would be the easiest because they have sanctioning bodies that charge sanctioning FEES. If I become an IBF champion. At that moment part of my sanctioning fees should be sent into a IRA account. Every time I defend or challenge for a IBF belt that part of the fee should be enrollment into my IBF IRA. Then on the contract for the IRA, it should state a mininiun amount of title defenses I need for the IBF to put their own organizations money into my retirement account form other IBF sanctioning events. The fact nobody has brought this up proves boxers are getting punched in the head too much or are too dumb to realize they are paying for FEES for nothing but a leather fake belt.

If you don't like that idea then flip it over to the boxing managers like Al Haymon. Everyone who has a boxing manager should only hire managers that are also certified financial advisors not just boxing advisors.

[BodyBagz]

very few "individual" type sports have those plans, because it is next to impossible to fund them, or to determine who would be eligible. Team sports are different, due to the economic structure. As far as individual sports go, tennis is the only one I can think of that has some sort of retirement plan, but even then its only for players who were on the PGA Tour a minimum of 15 years, and made the cut at least 15 times a year.

It's not impossible. Just deduct a % of the purse. Boxing isn't going anywhere.

[MalevolentBite]

It's not impossible. Just deduct a % of the purse. Boxing isn't going anywhere.

Facts. I just said that above. He sounds crazy.

[real raw]

100% ....Owen Lewis just said the quiet part out loud..... WE are all tired of Saul “Canelo” Alvarez taking on hopelessly outmatched opponent after hopelessly outmatched opponent, all the while insisting that he’ll fight anyone and that he’s the best fighter in the sport. Amen to that!

It’s disappointing behavior from a sure-shot Hall of Famer and it’s bundled David Benavidez out of a defining fight he surely deserved. That boxing media continues to repeat ad nauseam that Canelo is the face of the sport and that his legacy is secure grates on me too. After the five consecutive dull, predictable unanimous decision wins Canelo has coughed up in recent fights, what I think those who cover the sport should be highlighting – especially in light of what Usyk, Crawford, and Inoue are doing – is that it’s time for boxing to replace its face.

Real talk, who is WE? I really dont care what Canelo does. he's had a lond, sotried career and is on his way out. I'm much more interested in what the newer, up and coming fighters are doing. Anyone sitting around WAITING on a "Canelo" payday is their own worst enemy and should be building their OWN career.

[real raw]

Canelo is one fighter, in one weight division.

[OnePunch]

That's not true, boxing probably would be the easiest because they have sanctioning bodies that charge sanctioning FEES. If I become an IBF champion. At that moment part of my sanctioning fees should be sent into a IRA account. Every time I defend or challenge for a IBF belt that part of the fee should be enrollment into my IBF IRA. Then on the contract for the IRA, it should state a mininiun amount of title defenses I need for the IBF to put their own organizations money into my retirement account form other IBF sanctioning events. The fact nobody has brought this up proves boxers are getting punched in the head too much or are too dumb to realize they are paying for FEES for nothing but a leather fake belt.

If you don't like that idea then flip it over to the boxing managers like Al Haymon. Everyone who has a boxing manager should only hire managers that are also certified financial advisors not just boxing advisors.

You are living in fantasyland. Less than 1% of all pro boxers will ever fight in a title fight. So are you limiting the pension plan to just world title challengers? What about regular opponents? Promoters actually turn a profit on about 1 in 50 fighters, if that, so its not realistic to expect them to fund it. So do you plan on taking money from the guy fighting a 6 rounder off-tv for $2 grand? Who pays? Who is eligible? How many fights does someone need to qualify? How much do they need to have paid in?

Guys like you always talk with these big grandiose statements about how you want to ride in on your white horse and save the day, but you always lack the actual specifics. in the 60 plus years that this topic has been discussed, not a single viable plan has ever been proposed. California and the IBF both have pension initiatives, neither of which amounts to very much......

[eco1]

Not having a good website to discuss boxing

[landotter]

Same as it is, for me, every year -

Boxing is still not a sport
Keeps it's score a secret
In fact, has no real scoring system other than a knockdown
Still has no retirement fund in place for those who retire
Doesn't regulate roid usage (roids are not the demons fans make them out to be)
Judges still have the worst POV in the entire arena.

Same ol, same ol.

The scoring... sweet mother of Earth, the scoring. How long before there is accountability in scoring?

While I am not sure a full retirement is needed for boxers, providing mental and physical follow ups to boxers seems like a complete no brainer. Make sure these fighters can get the medical help they need after their careers.

[BodyBagz]

The scoring... sweet mother of Earth, the scoring. How long before there is accountability in scoring?

While I am not sure a full retirement is needed for boxers, providing mental and physical follow ups to boxers seems like a complete no brainer. Make sure these fighters can get the medical help they need after their careers.

Same page, bro.

As for a retirement plan, as with most occupations, a person can opt out if they please.
Otherwise the sport should and could easily deduct x % from each fight.
It would give fighters incentive to fight more often ???
Literally fighting for their future.
I mean, how many examples of broke retired boxers do active boxers need