Morrell does not want Vada testing

[IronDanHamza]

I wouldn’t be so sure about that as history repeats itself

Well, yeah, that's true.

Likely wouldn't have gone ahead would be better suited.

[Bullrider]

Garcia's positive test results came in after the fight.

If they'd come in before the fight wouldn't have gone ahead.

What's the point of these testings then if the results are that late? Wasn't Benn vs Eubank huge in the UK and got canceled on the eve of the fight? Of course, it's a huge disappointment to the promoters, investors, managers, fans, organizers, you name it.

[garfios]

No legal system
That chit opens up a whole Pandora’s box

If he's clean, benavidez is slandering him. Although a real old a$$ whooping should do it.

[IronDanHamza]

What's the point of these testings then if the results are that late? Wasn't Benn vs Eubank huge in the UK and got canceled on the eve of the fight? Of course, it's a huge disappointment to the promoters, investors, managers, fans, organizers, you name it.

Because the samples were from the week of, and they take usually 1-2 weeks for the results to come back.

Benn-Eubank was cancelled because the results came back before the fight, not after the fight in the case of Garcia's test.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Well, I think your point of fact is a little bit off, by the mouth of benavidez himself Morrell Jr has been tested a least three times, benavidez 30 times.

And yet, he's not carried on the VADA archives. Care to share your source? I'm not saying he definitely hasn't, just that I was unable to find a single instance of him enrolling in, or completing VADA. He may have been tested, but it doesn't appear to have been by VADA, and it sounds like you're basing it on hearsay anyways.

I'm also a fan of Morrell, but it's not a great look.

[garfios]

And yet, he's not carried on the VADA archives. Care to share your source? I'm not saying he definitely hasn't, just that I was unable to find a single instance of him enrolling in, or completing VADA. He may have been tested, but it doesn't appear to have been by VADA, and it sounds like you're basing it on hearsay anyways.

I'm also a fan of Morrell, but it's not a great look.

You would have to ask benavidez, he's the one that pointed out. Is vada the only one that test boxers? And yes, it's hearsay from the same person that has started this, which is hearsay too.

[crimsonfalcon07]

You would have to ask benavidez, he's the one that pointed out. Is vada the only one that test boxers? And yes, it's hersay from the same person that has started this, which is hersaay too.

Benavidez isn't the first person to say it, and it's not hearsay that Morrell doesn't appear in VADA records for either enrolling or completing. They list that publicly. You can look it up yourself. I like Morrell, and I'll be rooting for him vs Benavidez. But that's independent of me, and Mula, who are both fans of Morrell, thinking it's a little suss that there's no evidence that he's ever done VADA. Although I'm not so naive that I think there's no chance that most boxers might be juicing.

[garfios]

Benavidez isn't the first person to say it, and it's not hearsay that Morrell doesn't appear in VADA records for either enrolling or completing. They list that publicly. You can look it up yourself. I like Morrell, and I'll be rooting for him vs Benavidez. But that's independent of me, and Mula, who are both fans of Morrell, thinking it's a little suss that there's no evidence that he's ever done VADA. Although I'm not so naive that I think there's no chance that most boxers might be juicing.

We're talking about Morrell Jr, whatever is going on with other fighters has nothing to do with our conversation. Is it VADA the only one that test? And his last two fights in LA and LV, did the fighters got tested? Because those were big events. Again, I'm all for a fair fight, but they don't have any proof, why would I echo rumors that started with two guys that got ktfo, and one of them mentioned caceres sue, what does caceres sue has to do with his ped's accusation? If I recall correctly caceres complain was with hitting behind the head, after he started with the dirty tactics, benavidez is all over the place, now he's accusing Morrell Jr that he tried to injury him by throwing the heavy belt, wtf? He started the whole chit, what did he expected? So, unless there's a real proof I for one don't care about what they say. I'm a firm believer that you don't accuse another person unless you have proof. Are they testing for this comingfight? Is Memo with benavidez? He has fought three times in LA and once in Vegas, the commission there do enforce testing, so did he fail any of those test?
It's hearsay what benavidez and agbeko are saying.

[crimsonfalcon07]

We're talking about Morrell Jr, whatever is going on with other fighters has nothing to do with our conversation. Is it VADA the only one that test? And his last two fights in LA and LV, did the fighters got tested? Because those were big events. Again, I'm all for a fair fight, but they don't have any proof, why would I echo rumors that started with two guys that got ktfo, and one of them mentioned caceres sue, what does caceres sue has to do with his ped's accusation? If I recall correctly caceres complain was with hitting behind the head, after he started with the dirty tactics, benavidez is all over the place, now he's accusing Morrell Jr that he tried to injury him by throwing the heavy belt, wtf? He started the whole chit, what did he expected? So, unless there's a real proof I for one don't care about what they say. I'm a firm believer that you don't accuse another person unless you have proof. Are they testing for this comingfight? Is Memo with benavidez? He has fought three times in LA and once in Vegas, the commission there do enforce testing, so did he fail any of those test?
It's hearsay what benavidez and agbeko are saying.

No, it isn't. VADA testing is public record. They are saying he has avoided VADA testing, and public record shows he hasn't ever completed, or even enrolled in VADA testing. Period. Which you'd know if you looked it up yourself.

They aren't saying he hasn't done testing with some other agency, which is unlikely. You can't even name some other agency that does it for boxing. But that's what's irrelevant, because you're trying to manufacture some other testing agency that might have conducted tests, which you can't even name, nor provide proof that he did, when the subject is whether he's avoiding VADA testing, and, as I've pointed out, their public records do not show him ever so much as enrolling in it, for any fight, as far as I could find. VADA is what's in the title. You're the one doing mental gymnastics to try to avoid admitting what's factual, which is that neither you, nor I, can find any evidence that he's ever undergone VADA testing.

Then you said, wrongly, that Benavidez was the only one saying it, and I corrected the record on that. I haven't even mentioned another boxer by name, so quit gaslighting. I'm merely trying to avoid you going off on another irrelevant tangent. The subject is whether Morrell is avoiding VADA, and the records do not show him ever enrolling in, or completing, VADA testing. That's not hearsay. That's verifiable fact.

[rickJen]

How many fans would like this fight get canceled due to these ped issues?
Looks like many are more sympathetic to Morrell than to Benavidez.
Not a lot of posters are chiming in here unlike in the Ryan Garcia case.