Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk and Vasiliy Lomachenko: Although they 'can more,' they have nothing left to prove

[DClefthook]

He played the amatuer game and ducked the top guys as a pro. When he finally fought them he lost and cried about it.

WTF? We actually agree? Of shyte I'm not ready for 2025!

[LAchargers373]

So what level is Teo losing to Kambosos who Loma Stopped? Even Haney couldn't stop Kambosos is 24 rounds.

Toe beats Loma
Kambosos beats Teo
Lomachenko beats Kambosos

Who is the best of the 3?

Teo. He’s a 2 division undisputed champion at LW and unified at 140 with the best wins of the 3. The kambosos fight can be written off due to the medical circumstances. Teo also constantly searches the best fights as opposed to loma who ducked mikey garcia and tank davis and even Terence Crawford if we’re honest. Loma was at the same weight as Crawford both top rank but he never said a peep lol

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[boxingitis]

Teo. He’s a 2 division undisputed champion at LW and unified at 140 with the best wins of the 3. The kambosos fight can be written off due to the medical circumstances. Teo also constantly searches the best fights as opposed to loma who ducked mikey garcia and tank davis and even Terence Crawford if we’re honest. Loma was at the same weight as Crawford both top rank but he never said a peep lol

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Teo is not Undisputed at either weight class.
His performance vs Nakatani, Sandor Martin, Ortiz show his level. Taylor was already a shell of himself when he face Teo. Even Caterall had beaten Taylor before Teo. He hasn't beaten any other Champion at 140 to unify.

[LAchargers373]

Teo is not Undisputed at either weight class.
His performance vs Nakatani, Sandor Martin, Ortiz show his level. Taylor was already a shell of himself when he face Teo. Even Caterall had beaten Taylor before Teo. He hasn't beaten any other Champion at 140 to unify.

He won all those fights. And he’s a unified champion at 140 he won the WBO and ring title I believe. Lomachenko lost to salido that shows his level. See how that works? At least teos worst performances were against good fighters and he WON. Lomachenko got beat up by a journeyman and couldn’t even pull out the decision lol. Sad

[famicommander]

Do the people who write for this site even like boxing? Trying to push guys that can still fight into retirement early is a weird thing to do. I could understand if we were talking about a shopworn guy that has taken too many beatings over the years, but Usyk is still at the top of his game. If he wants to keep fighting he should absolutely do so.

[JeBron Lamez]

Loma is possibly the most talented fighter in comparison to his record all time. Usyk is possibly the most ordinary fighter in comparison to his record.

Strange in a way how that has happened to two guys so close.

Watching Loma was otherworldly at times. Took too long to go pro and his injuries robbed us of what he might have been.

Who tf is ordinary???!! Insane take lol.

[JeBron Lamez]

Also, y'all need to GET Chavez off that 2nd tier list immediately, wtf is wrong with people smh.

[JeBron Lamez]

Do the people who write for this site even like boxing? Trying to push guys that can still fight into retirement early is a weird thing to do. I could understand if we were talking about a shopworn guy that has taken too many beatings over the years, but Usyk is still at the top of his game. If he wants to keep fighting he should absolutely do so.

You're right of course but I generally get the feeling that the 21st Century boxing hardcore are developing a perspective where we just don't want to see any more greats either get mad punchy or even just Roy Jones themselves out of their own revered status, which definitely happens a lot :/

That's just the legacy part, the feeling is especially strong in an instance where we know the guy already has plenty of money.

Of course, there are guys who royally eff up their finances and need to fight on. All of us above a certain age can remember Tyson's tragically grateful speech after the Lewis fight about how "the payday was wonderful".

EVERY retiring fighter leaves at least SOME money on the table because there is ALWAYS another offer but in Usyk's case it just might not be worth it.

[turnedup]

Seriously wish Loma never needed that arm surgery. He came into the game late and he’s still dealing with issues around it. He gave Haney all he could handle with damn near one arm too hence why he hasn’t really fought since. The arm issue goes as far back as the Walter’s fight so every fight up until the surgery was a a dude fighting off pure grit alone.

[jackblack008]

Seriously wish Loma never needed that arm surgery. He came into the game late and he’s still dealing with issues around it. He gave Haney all he could handle with damn near one arm too hence why he hasn’t really fought since. The arm issue goes as far back as the Walter’s fight so every fight up until the surgery was a a dude fighting off pure grit alone.

Let the excuses flow.