Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk did enough to close the book on his Tyson Fury rivalry

[ZoddGutts]

No need for a third fight. There are more interesting fights for Usyk if he fights for the rest of 2025.The winner of the Parker vs Dubois fight should face Usyk.

[Sparked_26]

If nothing else it wasn't a very entertaining match. The stakes provided the actual tension.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I agree with you on most points. Usyk won fair and square. Fury has the physical advantages visually and on paper. Fury was wearing cheating shorts and I am not sure if beard is really significant or not. Before the fight, I really thought that Fury had a shot to win by pressing the action more, by being focused and by not clowning around and by coming in with better conditioning.

And in the first five rounds it looked like Fury was focused, disciplined and competitive. BUT then he took round 6 off and in round 7 I realised he had no more to give. He was just trying to survive - to not get knocked out. Basically, Fury who had an incredible engine and would fight all 12 rounds to the bitter end get up when he is knocked down is gone - no more. He is now old, fat and clumsy. By round 11 he could not keep his hands up and any shots he delivered had no mustard on them. He was physically exhausted. Even though he wanted to change things and even though he knew what needed to be done to win, his body could not execute the game plan. Years of abuse have finally taken their toll.

Well Fury came in *very* heavy for this fight (281 pounds compared to 262 last time round) so that's probably why. Fury did box and fight very well. But if you come in that heavy against a small guy you better not be trying to win on points. His weight was 100% intentional

I think Fury still has it in him - just depends what effect this will have on his ego. He has only fought 3 top-10 fighters in last 9 years - and none of them apart from Usyk have been actual good boxers (As opposed to fighters or brawlers). You can't beat someone like Usyk with no practice to sharpen your skills. Wallin was the best pure boxer he fought and Fury struggled...

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Let's see if usyk continues to duck wilder

I really hope that is sarcasm.

[wileyhemi]

What are you talking about? They are absolutely allowed to score a 10-10 round. It doesn't happen all that often but it's definitely allowed.

I'm talking about the official directive to judges to avoid scoring even rounds. You say it doesn't happen often? You don't think there have been any rounds which should have been scored even in recent memory? Name one champiobship fight with an even round.
I suppose you know better but AI says this:

Are professional boxing judges given directives as to scoring even rounds?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, professional boxing judges are typically given directives about scoring even rounds, but the specifics can vary depending on the organization or jurisdiction overseeing the fight. Common Practices for Scoring Even Rounds:

1. Avoiding Even Scores: Judges are generally encouraged to avoid scoring rounds as even (10-10) unless it is truly impossible to determine a winner. This is because even scores can complicate the final tally, making it harder to determine a clear winner.

[famicommander]

I'm talking about the official directive to judges to avoid scoring even rounds. You say it doesn't happen often? You don't think there have been any rounds which should have been scored even in recent memory? Name one champiobship fight with an even round.
I suppose you know better but AI says this:

Are professional boxing judges given directives as to scoring even rounds?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, professional boxing judges are typically given directives about scoring even rounds, but the specifics can vary depending on the organization or jurisdiction overseeing the fight. Common Practices for Scoring Even Rounds:

1. Avoiding Even Scores: Judges are generally encouraged to avoid scoring rounds as even (10-10) unless it is truly impossible to determine a winner. This is because even scores can complicate the final tally, making it harder to determine a clear winner.

Did you read your own post? It doesn't prohibit even rounds, it says to avoid them unless it's impossible to determine a winner.

Prograis vs Taylor, one of the judges scored the 8th round 10-10:
https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-p...alysis--143750

I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Discouraged does not mean prohibited. All of the judges were within their right to score a 10-10 round in this fight if they truly saw the round as even.

[wileyhemi]

Did you read your own post? It doesn't prohibit even rounds, it says to avoid them unless it's impossible to determine a winner.

Prograis vs Taylor, one of the judges scored the 8th round 10-10:
https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-p...alysis--143750

I shouldn't have to explain this to you. Discouraged does not mean prohibited. All of the judges were within their right to score a 10-10 round in this fight if they truly saw the round as even.

You're right. There was an even round scored by one judge in ...what year was Prograis/Taylor? Why it was just a little while ago...in 2019! Genius, did you see the word prohibited in my post? Impossible to to determine a winner means the judges are directed to avoid even rounds as much as possible. They are not allowed to score very close rounds even, which leads to judges scoring close rounds differently and a fighter potentially winning more rounds clearly but having basically even rounds given to the opponent. Suffice it to say Las Vegas judges love the "flexibility" to influence the result. I guess you shouldn't have to explain that there are really no corrupt judges use the system to rob fighters

[famicommander]

You're right. There was an even round scored by one judge in ...what year was Prograis/Taylor? Why it was just a little while ago...in 2019! Genius, did you see the word prohibited in my post? Impossible to to determine a winner means the judges are directed to avoid even rounds as much as possible. They are not allowed to score very close rounds even, which leads to judges scoring close rounds differently and a fighter potentially winning more rounds clearly but having basically even rounds given to the opponent. Suffice it to say Las Vegas judges love the "flexibility" to influence the result. I guess you shouldn't have to explain that there are really no corrupt judges use the system to rob fighters

Once again, they are allowed to score 10-10 rounds. You flat out said they weren't allowed to, which is why I replied to you to begin with.

[wileyhemi]

Once again, they are allowed to score 10-10 rounds. You flat out said they weren't allowed to, which is why I replied to you to begin with.

They are strongly discouraged from scoring even rounds. Is that acceptable Mr Grammar? I think you would have scored a lot more than one round even since 2019. Just in the two Usyk/Fury fights there were a couple of even rounds. Merry x-mas to you and yours

[famicommander]

They are strongly discouraged from scoring even rounds. Is that acceptable Mr Grammar? I think you would have scored a lot more than one round even since 2019. Just in the two Usyk/Fury fights there were a couple of even rounds. Merry x-mas to you and yours

That's not the only 10-10 round since 2019 you clown. That was just the easiest one to find a photograph of on Google.