Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk scores repeat victory over Tyson Fury

[vital1983]

The right man won today and the judges scores were fair. Usyk is 10% better all around - better stamina, better chin, faster and more accurate hands, better footwork.

Anthony Joshua's scored the fight for Usyk by one point Sergio Mora commentary had Usyk winning clearly by a few rounds. Only English commentators and fans would give that fight to Fury for obvious reasons. He just did not do enough.

AI the fourth judge also had Usyk winning by a larger margin 118-112. Compubox punch stats in terms of punches landed also favor Usyk. Fans on Boxrec have it 115-114 for Usyk. Boxing Scene had it 116-112 for Usyk.

Competitive fight, but a clear decision for the right man.

Sorry Branko, but sounds like your personal bias is getting in the way. Referencing others does not conclude the truth. I respect your moxy, but connections and links don't solve a puzzle.

[vital1983]

The Tipsy King gets beat again by the middleweight.

This is it. I told everyone here The Tipsy One was scared of Usyk and for a reason. Usyk is the far better boxer. While Usyk goes down to the list of ATGs, Tipsy will be remembered beating Bum Squad twice, getting a gift against McDermott, against Wallin and against a guy with record of 0-0, 0 KOs.

He tried to duck the first fight with ridiculous demands but the Champ called out his bluff. He tried to spin the narrative but the public wasn’t buying his lies anymore. He was forced to face the Champ or lose face completely.

He tried to convince himself in the build up that the Champ was a rabbit, ugly, middleweight etc. He held a press conference where he reassured himself about winning since he was the bigger man. He claimed he was going to destroy the Champ.

He was saved by the ref and lost clearly. A humilating defeat.

In the rematch The Tipsy Plan was to play it safe and trust that the judges would favour him, like they did in the first fight. They didn’t. The Champ beat him again despite weighing 55lbs less than his Tipsy opponent.

And then The Tipsy Tears flowed on boxingscene, youtube, instagram, tiktok, facebook and all places. How can it be that The Tipsy King didn’t get the Tipsy Nod against Undisputed Champion even tho he wasn’t even knocked down??? Unfair!

Usyk has ended this era of boxing. He came, he saw and he conquered. He beat bigger guys skill for skill and has proven to be one of the best heavyweights and boxers in history. Let’s go, Champ!

The Tipsy Legacy will now be that he gave a good challenge to the best boxer in his era and complained about it. It’s still a good legacy I guess, only his fans talked him up so much that now they have enough humble pie to last through the holidays.

Merry Christmas everyone! And HAPPY NEW YEAR!

How old are you! Tipsy King!. Have you any respect for 2 warriors! Have a sit down.

[vital1983]

Weakest heavyweight era of all time. A cruiser weight comes up and wipes out the whole division. None of these guys belong in the heavyweight great of any era except for the little man, Usyk. Wilder, Fury, Joshua all overpaid average boxers who all got exposed as soon as they fought somebody good. Awful era of heavyweight boxing.

And Holyfield was! Lesson learnt for today!

[gigiotto]

Fury's behavior in the days before the match and a few seconds before , clearly showed Fury's fear, his nervousness. Fury knew well that he could lose and so it was. Fury great boxer, Usyk top champion, this is the difference.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Fury made exactly the mistake same AJ did in his 2nd fight with Usyk - settled for being better but stil not winning the fight. That's the problem when you don't think you *really* lost first time round. Fury just thought he needed to focus this time to win.

I thought Fury would have the guts to go for it - but turns out he didn't

Usyk had all the disadvantages in there and still won.

Uysk should honestly retire or go down in weight. People like Fury and AJ are made for him (boxers who can both be hurt and who normally win through their skill). Someone with an iron chin, who is rough + big and punches hard will be a different ball game. I think Usyk may even struggle against someone like big baby.

100%, Commenters above you showing bias. Fury won that fight, those scorecards were wild.

Fury was never going to win by the judges after he wore those high shorts and full beard. They probably would have given it to Usyk if Fury had won it. Cheats don't deserve generosity.

[letsgochump]

Speculating about fighters from different eras matching up is always fun but ultimately a bit unsatisfying, mainly because we will NEVER know the outcomes. It's doubtful that any practical form of time travel will ever come along to scratch that type of itch. However, let me add this thought to the "what if" mix: the Many Worlds Theory in cosmology posits an infinite number of universes constantly branching off with every if/then causal event that happens. Mathematically, in an infinite ever-expanding number of universes, there will be ones where Ali is a contemporary of Tyson, and they have a trilogy of epic fights. And yet another universe where Joe Louis meets Usyk and they battle it out for the crown. You get the idea. So maybe we can be satisfied knowing that somewhere, out there in the limitless cosmos, our dream matchups are realities. We just can't experience them.
Also, Usyk clearly won last night. Let's move on.

I would agree with the notion it is pointless to try to argue who would win, Usyk or Foreman. However when someone says the era is weak it seems to suggest that some other time was less weak. And when they say weakest of all time then it means at all other times the division was of higher quality.

The way to speculate can be fruitful from this angle in the sense that usually there is a reason why ppl feel the other eras were better. To get to the bottom of it comparing fighters of old to the current ones is just a tool of getting to the bottom why people hate the current era.

I do agree that on average the skill level of HWs seem to decline. Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Makhmudov have made their way very close to the top with very low level skill sets based on strengths in other areas. All you need to do is go down to cruiserweight and see they box at a higher level. Yet, very few make it at HW. Usyk is, after all, an anomaly. This goes against the notion Ali would beat the likes of Fury, Klitschko and Zhang easily. I am simply curious why someone would call the current era weakest after watching such high skill level boxing.

[letsgochump]

How old are you! Tipsy King!. Have you any respect for 2 warriors! Have a sit down.

35 years.

I have very little respect for a drug cheat who ducked good opposition as long as he could while claiming to be an ATG out loud.

A cheat who also got gifts against the likes of Undisputed Excuse Champion ”Bum Squad” Wilder, Otto Wallin, John McDermott and Francis Ngannou.

First elite fighter he faced since Klitschko was Usyk and he is 0-2 now against him. Just like I said would happen.

Why do you like The Tipsy King?

[Oldskoolg]

So the man from Manchester lost. Didn’t watch the fight due to it only being offered on the deadzone. I’ll watch it on YouTube or something. I figured the extra weight wasn’t going to work well for Fury, should have come in with 10 lbs less than he did the last fight actually. Fury is making a whole lot of excuses post fight though, blaming the AI etc etc. maybe he and wilder are related

[Left Hook Louie]

I would agree with the notion it is pointless to try to argue who would win, Usyk or Foreman. However when someone says the era is weak it seems to suggest that some other time was less weak. And when they say weakest of all time then it means at all other times the division was of higher quality.

The way to speculate can be fruitful from this angle in the sense that usually there is a reason why ppl feel the other eras were better. To get to the bottom of it comparing fighters of old to the current ones is just a tool of getting to the bottom why people hate the current era.

I do agree that on average the skill level of HWs seem to decline. Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Makhmudov have made their way very close to the top with very low level skill sets based on strengths in other areas. All you need to do is go down to cruiserweight and see they box at a higher level. Yet, very few make it at HW. Usyk is, after all, an anomaly. This goes against the notion Ali would beat the likes of Fury, Klitschko and Zhang easily. I am simply curious why someone would call the current era weakest after watching such high skill level boxing.

Maybe one reason is the simplest of all: fewer frequency of fights per year per fighter (much lower activity rate) means skills never fully develop by the time a fighter is past his prime. IOW, the average skillset of today's fighter is lower because they don't get enough experience.

[57Blues]

The Boxing Gods (promo boys) are about done with Fury now, they hyped him gave him good press told the lies of how great he was and all that he did for boxing showered him with money and big money fights, and now it is time to move on ................. he never was what people thought he was he never was or could be anything more then more manufactured then real the end shows the truth of the whole damn journey ............