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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
I had it 114-113 Fury, but for me, you had it 4-2 Fury after 6, which implies you gave Usyk round 7? If so, that's surprising as I, and everyone I've talked to thought Fury won Round 7 clearly, so that would be 5-2 after 7. I feel that people have rewritten history after the fight. I followed the fight response live and it was all razor tight first 3 rounds, then after the fight people wrongly saying Usyk swept the board R1,2,3.
It could have went either way. 4-5-6-7 were clear Fury for me. 8,9,10 clear Usyk, plus the knockdown, so from those rounds it is even. So it is who won 3 rounds out of 1,2,3,11,12. All those rounds were close and could have been scored either way. Most gave Fury Round 12 as well.
Strongly think Fury gets the job done by KO this time. Nash out - His Excellency
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I am confused by this anti fury chatter, Tyson is certianly the villain in this story, and that is by his own volition. Of course there are going to be articles that are less than peachy, and I would not even describe this particular piece as slanted, it's true. Tyson struggles with the little guys, and of course, Wilder.
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Originally posted by joe strong View PostThis article seems pretty anti-Fury. The rematch will be interesting. I had Usyk winning 7-5 with an extra point for the standing 8. 115-112. I had it 4-2 Fury after 6 & usyk 5-1 in the 2nd half with the extra point. Usyk adjusted so quickly I don’t think Fury was ready for it.
I said to the guy next to me when Fury was having success to the body that he needed to immediately follow through wiith tying him up & leaning on him to tire him out but he never did that. Usyk made adjustments & Tyson had no answer & started tiring.
Usyk really impressed me in the 2nd half of the fight. I think Tyson needs to have that same body attack but he needs to tie him up immediately after & slow the pace down. If he doesn’t slow Usyk down I’m pretty sure Usyk wins another decision. Fury needs to find a way to cut off the ring faster & use his obvious size advantage to slow down Usyk. I prefer he came in heavy but with better fitness so can go 12 rounds more efficiently.
Fury is the one HW who has the combination of size & skill who could trouble Usyk but Usyk’s skillset & ability to adjust mid-fight is out of this world & his stamina is elite so Fury needs to find a way to lean on Usyk & slow him down.
I would try to aggressively go after him early like he did in the 2nd Wilder fight. Get on him early & go to the body. Obviously Usyk is not Wilder & he can box his way out of trouble but he showed *****s in his armour against Dubois & the first Fury fight. Usyk don’t like the body shots & that is the key to the rematch for Fury. Punish Usyk to the body & then grab him. Make the ref have to break them up. Don’t let Usyk get comfortable. This is an intriguing rematch because of the high skillset of both fighters.
They both can make adjustments with their high ring IQs. Usyk is at another level when it comes to in fight adjustments so Fury will have to adapt but I’m convinced the body is key for Fury to win.
It is nice that you felt compelled to write something balanced, lol.
I honestly thought the first fight was epic but Usyk clearly won it.
The unknown is whether the potential broken nose in round 8 and of course the battering in round 9 was the absolute swing and if Fury could avoid getting damaged like that could he have held it together and made an adjustment himself down the stretch. The round 8 thing is coming from Fury's team itself.
Hardly a revelation to say if someone punches you in the beak tremendously hard it's going to ruin your gameplan and bollo.cks your gas tank.
But Usyk has such an otherworldly second wind in fights that are we just expecting Usyk to sweep the last 4 rounds regardless of how the previous 8 play out unless Usyk has been broken up and hurt?
Because in my head and from I've seen from Usyk over his career. I basically am. He's incredible.
And that's rating both fighters highly like you. Fury at times was exceptional in the first fight. It was a great fight with a clear winner.
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Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post
Your mind is addled if you gave Fury anything more than four rounds total in that first fight. No man born of his mother could intelligently argue that Tyson Fury won any round outside of Rd4-Rd7. Usyk legitimately won a minimum of eight rounds in that fight, on top of a 10-8 round in a Rd9. It was a clear and comprehensive win for Usyk.
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Originally posted by Sparked_26 View Post
Good post! I came into whinge about the article. Which is insane writing tbf.
It is nice that you felt compelled to write something balanced, lol.
I honestly thought the first fight was epic but Usyk clearly won it.
The unknown is whether the potential broken nose in round 8 and of course the battering in round 9 was the absolute swing and if Fury could avoid getting damaged like that could he have held it together and made an adjustment himself down the stretch. The round 8 thing is coming from Fury's team itself.
Hardly a revelation to say if someone punches you in the beak tremendously hard it's going to ruin your gameplan and bollo.cks your gas tank.
But Usyk has such an otherworldly second wind in fights that are we just expecting Usyk to sweep the last 4 rounds regardless of how the previous 8 play out unless Usyk has been broken up and hurt?
Because in my head and from I've seen from Usyk over his career. I basically am. He's incredible.
And that's rating both fighters highly like you. Fury at times was exceptional in the first fight. It was a great fight with a clear winner.
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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
I had it 114-113 Fury, but for me, you had it 4-2 Fury after 6, which implies you gave Usyk round 7? If so, that's surprising as I, and everyone I've talked to thought Fury won Round 7 clearly, so that would be 5-2 after 7. I feel that people have rewritten history after the fight. I followed the fight response live and it was all razor tight first 3 rounds, then after the fight people wrongly saying Usyk swept the board R1,2,3.
It could have went either way. 4-5-6-7 were clear Fury for me. 8,9,10 clear Usyk, plus the knockdown, so from those rounds it is even. So it is who won 3 rounds out of 1,2,3,11,12. All those rounds were close and could have been scored either way. Most gave Fury Round 12 as well.
Strongly think Fury gets the job done by KO this time. Nash out - His Excellency
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostTerrible article written by a Fury hater. In reality Fury was domestic level when he faced McDermott in the first fight, and he won at least 6, if not 7 rounds if you mute the biased commentary. Vs Cunningham, he got caught, it happens, he lost rounds 2 and 3, but won every other round very easily for me. Slow jab? Hardly! Fury is known for his speed. Vs Wallin he got cut very early, that he fought through that and won by 4-5 points was tremendous.
He is also the only man to beat prime Wilder and he beat Usyk the first time, just got robbed. Not since the days of Brian Sutherland beating up 300 men a night on the mean streets have we seen a more complete fighter. Nash out - His Excellency
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Originally posted by Nash out View Post
Gave Fury 1,3,4,5,6,7,12. Don't get how anyone but Usyk superfans think Usyk swept the board first 3 rounds. Won't need scorecards tonight, the Gypsy King is ending this by KO. Nash out - His ExcellencyLast edited by TheOneAboveAll; 12-21-2024, 03:17 PM.
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