Ricky Hatton Believes Khan Overcame The Odds

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    #41
    Originally posted by S.G.
    Well yeah, his team, his management, anyone that will ever come into contact with him on a professional level. The kid is pound sterling incarnate so everyone who stands to benefit from that - who happen to be some highly influencial people - is going to do everything within their power to sustain the money train.

    Khan still has a **** load of fans, I think the "hate" he's recieved, while existant, is overstated somewhat around here. And what you gotta take into account is that these fairweather casual fans that might've jumped on an anti-Khan bandwagon are money in his pockets, and contribute to his continuing success which contributes to the advantages he recieves over other boxers in his career.

    Well i dont consider his "team" the british community, They are his team and he his a grain train because he done something not because it was just handed to him on a golden plate.

    If he didnt represent great britain at the olympics at the age of 17 and won a silver has the only sole team GB representative in boxing at the olympics then he wouldnt have all the opportunitis he had today.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
      Well you be fair to you, You dont really have a case to carry on with because calling someone like Kotelnik a gimme fight for anyone makes Pacquiao's resume look weak.... So am glad you recognise you made a mistake and hopped out.
      kotelnik is a good slow b fighter........ and 10 out of 10, a fast b rate fighter like khan would beat him to the punch all the time. now since you don't wanna let go, that should smack you back into reality.

      so what is there to argue about, tell me the names that he fought and beat and i will tell you if i recognise them, can you?

      case closed, he was a gimme fighter. unless your a countryman of his offcourse.
      Last edited by top7gun; 10-17-2009, 08:28 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
        and Khan doesnt have fans saying he would be the next best thing, Most people boo him and thinks he gets KO, They even applaud Barrera in THE UK and BOOED khan in the same ring so i dont know what some people are talking about..
        Barrera is a legend who's given boxing a great deal throughout his career; I'm sure he'll recieve due respect just about anywhere he goes

        People were pretty disillusioned after the Prescott fight at the time and were resentful about a loss that would severely damage most guys' careers barely being a bump in the road for Khan

        I think the resistance towards him post-Prescott is justifiable to a degree

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          #44
          Originally posted by Stewie Cruise

          Well i dont consider his "team" the british community
          Yeah, I was just referring to people inside the actual business

          Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
          If he didnt represent great britain at the olympics at the age of 17 and won a silver has the only sole team GB representative in boxing at the olympics then he wouldnt have all the opportunitis he had today.
          You're forgetting the most important aspect: his marketability. If he wasn't a clean-cut, good looking ****** kid with a story he'd be just another Olympic medal winner turned pro, which there happens to be quite a few of around and a new batch every four years

          Whether Khan's star-power is earned or not is a whole 'nother debate and I think I'd have to say it's a combination of both. Obviously he had to be highly skilled to even have the platform for success in the first place but promotion companies saw Khan as a big, walking dollar sign for a lot of reasons unrelated to anything he's achieved inside the ring and proceeded to exploit that and, in essense, shove him down the British public's throats

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            #45
            Originally posted by S.G.
            Yeah, I was just referring to people inside the actual business


            You're forgetting the most important aspect: his marketability. If he wasn't a clean-cut, good looking ****** kid with a story he'd be just another Olympic medal winner turned pro, which there happens to be quite a few of around and a new batch every four years

            Whether Khan's star-power is earned or not is a whole 'nother debate and I think I'd have to say it's a combination of both. Obviously he had to be highly skilled to even have the platform for success in the first place but promotion companies saw Khan as a big, walking dollar sign for a lot of reasons unrelated to anything he's achieved inside the ring and proceeded to exploit that and, in essense, shove him down the British public's throats
            poor khan.... doing and working his ass off all the time for a country he believes his a citizen, but not being appreciated at all.

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              #46
              Originally posted by top7gun
              kotelnik is a good slow b fighter........ and 10 out of 10, a fast b rate fighter like khan would beat him to the punch all the time. now since you don't wanna let go, that should smack you back into reality.

              so what is there to argue about, tell me the names that he fought and beat and i will tell you if i recognise them, can you?

              case closed, he was a gimme fighter. unless your a countryman of his offcourse.

              Am a countryman yes but i dont lick fighters behind period, My problem with your post isnt about Khan but about your "Gimme opponent" like Kotelnik, Only if you dont know boxing would you proclaim Kotelnik at this stage of his career a gimme fight for anyone.

              If kotelnik at this stage of his career is a gimme fight then pacquiao last 4 years are a joke according to you because all the guys he fought falls under your gimme opponent requirement..

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                #47
                Originally posted by S.G.
                Barrera is a legend who's given boxing a great deal throughout his career; I'm sure he'll recieve due respect just about anywhere he goes

                People were pretty disillusioned after the Prescott fight at the time and were resentful about a loss that would severely damage most guys' careers barely being a bump in the road for Khan

                I think the resistance towards him post-Prescott is justifiable to a degree

                Well he fought under warren the same promoter who hype up and sold BS fights to the british public for Ricky Hatton and they loved it and took it up on the WBU, Do we need to boo Khan because we appreicate Barrera for what he has done for boxing???

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Stewie Cruise

                  Well he fought under warren the same promoter who hype up and sold BS fights to the british public for Ricky Hatton and they loved it and took it up on the WBU, Do we need to boo Khan because we appreicate Barrera for what he has done for boxing???
                  Hatton faced similar backlash after being crushed by Mayweather and Pacquiao - people don't like being decieved.

                  Khan saw more because the guy he was soundly beaten by was a journeyman record padder and not a P4P #1 legend

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
                    Am a countryman yes but i dont lick fighters behind period, My problem with your post isnt about Khan but about your "Gimme opponent" like Kotelnik, Only if you dont know boxing would you proclaim Kotelnik at this stage of his career a gimme fight for anyone.

                    If kotelnik at this stage of his career is a gimme fight then pacquiao last 4 years are a joke according to you because all the guys he fought falls under your gimme opponent requirement..
                    your falling apart... i don't even need to drag pacquaio's achievements here, and here you are cueing up to a different direction now.

                    i repeat what i said... kotelnik is a good slow b-rate fighter, and khan being a fast ligthning quick b rate fighter, 10 out of 10, khan will always beat him to the punch.
                    hence, he was a gimme fighter for khan..... is it clear? maybe not, coz you were thinking of putting in a bait by lambasting manny pacquaio..... i won't even go there, and who is licking somebody elses behind?

                    are you alright now?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by S.G.
                      Yeah, I was just referring to people inside the actual business


                      You're forgetting the most important aspect: his marketability. If he wasn't a clean-cut, good looking ****** kid with a story he'd be just another Olympic medal winner turned pro, which there happens to be quite a few of around and a new batch every four years

                      Whether Khan's star-power is earned or not is a whole 'nother debate and I think I'd have to say it's a combination of both. Obviously he had to be highly skilled to even have the platform for success in the first place but promotion companies saw Khan as a big, walking dollar sign for a lot of reasons unrelated to anything he's achieved inside the ring and proceeded to exploit that and, in essense, shove him down the British public's throats

                      Of course Khan is marketable only an idiot wouldnt see that, He's asian (New market), Olympic medal winner (great market), Young (17) and british so yeah even i would put a bid in for him to turn pro..

                      Him been shove down our throat??? How?? just change the channel if you dont want to watch him box, The media over here are like that they like to shove things down our throat but all i do his change the channel, I like british winners but i hate overhyping....Lewis hamilton came to mind but when i get bored i change the channel...simple.

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