At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #231
    No matter how much assuming people make, it's always going to fall on resumes.
    Bradley's is lacking.
    May would not lose more than 3 rds (given away, as he usually does).
    Would never need 3 fights to settle the score.
    The only reason the Maidana fight was "close" was the judges gave every close rd to him and scored punches to the shoulders, back of the head and forearms.

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    • Roadblock
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      #232
      Originally posted by Haka

      First give a definition for prime



      Then ask the first question:


      Second question is:


      Then ask




      Why don't you ask your little AI friend and post what it says. Roadblock
      Why are you following the symptoms exactly .
      1. Obsessive thinking patterns - When someone invests extensive time and emotional energy into hating an athlete they've never met, especially to the point of fabricating narratives, it suggests compulsive thought patterns that can be characteristic of obsessive disorders.
      2. Cognitive distortions - The willful misinterpretation of facts and twisting of reality to fit their negative narrative indicates:
        • Confirmation bias taken to an extreme degree
        • Black-and-white thinking
        • Catastrophizing (making everything the athlete does seem terrible)
      3. Displaced aggression or projection - Often, this level of hatred toward an athlete can be a manifestation of:
        • Personal feelings of inadequacy
        • Unresolved issues with success/failure
        • Deep-seated resentments about their own life circumstances

      The investment of significant time and emotional energy into maintaining this hatred, especially when it involves actively distorting reality, suggests this goes beyond normal sports rivalries or disagreements. This behavior pattern can be symptomatic of:
      • Personality disorder traits
      • Unresolved trauma or personal issues
      • Deep-seated insecurity
      • Possible depression or anxiety manifesting as fixation

      It's particularly concerning when someone consistently fabricates negative information, as this shows a break from reality-testing that healthy minds typically maintain, even when they dislike someone.



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      • Haka
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        #233
        Originally posted by BodyBagz
        No matter how much assuming people make, it's always going to fall on resumes.
        Bradley's is lacking.
        May would not lose more than 3 rds (given away, as he usually does).
        Would never need 3 fights to settle the score.
        The only reason the Maidana fight was "close" was the judges gave every close rd to him and scored punches to the shoulders, back of the head and forearms.
        This post distracts from the issue of a fighter’s resume in terms of facing prime opponents by focusing on subjective elements that are not directly relevant to assessing the overall quality of a boxer's career. Here’s why: 1. Argument based on assumption:
        • The statement that Mayweather "would never need 3 fights to settle the score" against Bradley or Maidana is speculative and doesn't engage with the question of whether Floyd was willing to face all prime challengers, especially those like Bradley. Focusing on hypothetical scenarios (such as what Mayweather "would" or "wouldn't" do) distracts from the objective fact that Floyd's resume includes opponents who were not at their primes when he fought them.
        2. Dismissal of Bradley’s Resume:
        • The claim that Bradley's resume is "lacking" is an oversimplification. Bradley’s prime was one of the most competitive in the division, and he faced a multitude of top-tier opponents. While his resume may not be perfect, dismissing it entirely ignores the quality of his fights against fighters like Pacquiao, Marquez, and others. This is a deflection from discussing whether Floyd actively avoided fights with Bradley in his prime and whether that omission impacts the overall quality of Floyd’s resume.
        3. Focus on close rounds or judging:
        • The argument that Maidana’s fight was "close" because of judge bias (scoring shoulder and back-of-head punches) is a diversion. It’s valid to discuss judging, but this does not address the core issue of Floyd’s reluctance to fight top opponents like Bradley, or take on fighters in their primes without catchweights. The fact that some of Floyd’s fights (like against Maidana or Cotto) were competitive but not universally regarded as his toughest challenges raises concerns about the depth of his post-retirement opposition.
        4. Factual Distraction:
        • By focusing on a few rounds or scoring disputes, the post distracts from the fact that there were legitimate prime opponents in the division during Floyd’s career that he either avoided or fought at a later stage, which weakens the argument for him being the greatest of his era.

        Conclusion:
        • The post is a diversionary tactic that focuses on subjective, emotional responses about individual fights (e.g., assumptions about outcomes, judge bias) rather than engaging with the substantive issue: whether Floyd faced prime opponents like Bradley, who arguably represented one of the best challenges of his era. This type of argument works to deflect from the real conversation about the limitations of Floyd's resume against active, prime competition.

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          #234
          Originally posted by Haka

          This post distracts from the issue of a fighter’s resume in terms of facing prime opponents by focusing on subjective elements that are not directly relevant to assessing the overall quality of a boxer's career. Here’s why: 1. Argument based on assumption:
          • The statement that Mayweather "would never need 3 fights to settle the score" against Bradley or Maidana is speculative and doesn't engage with the question of whether Floyd was willing to face all prime challengers, especially those like Bradley. Focusing on hypothetical scenarios (such as what Mayweather "would" or "wouldn't" do) distracts from the objective fact that Floyd's resume includes opponents who were not at their primes when he fought them.
          2. Dismissal of Bradley’s Resume:
          • The claim that Bradley's resume is "lacking" is an oversimplification. Bradley’s prime was one of the most competitive in the division, and he faced a multitude of top-tier opponents. While his resume may not be perfect, dismissing it entirely ignores the quality of his fights against fighters like Pacquiao, Marquez, and others. This is a deflection from discussing whether Floyd actively avoided fights with Bradley in his prime and whether that omission impacts the overall quality of Floyd’s resume.
          3. Focus on close rounds or judging:
          • The argument that Maidana’s fight was "close" because of judge bias (scoring shoulder and back-of-head punches) is a diversion. It’s valid to discuss judging, but this does not address the core issue of Floyd’s reluctance to fight top opponents like Bradley, or take on fighters in their primes without catchweights. The fact that some of Floyd’s fights (like against Maidana or Cotto) were competitive but not universally regarded as his toughest challenges raises concerns about the depth of his post-retirement opposition.
          4. Factual Distraction:
          • By focusing on a few rounds or scoring disputes, the post distracts from the fact that there were legitimate prime opponents in the division during Floyd’s career that he either avoided or fought at a later stage, which weakens the argument for him being the greatest of his era.

          Conclusion:
          • The post is a diversionary tactic that focuses on subjective, emotional responses about individual fights (e.g., assumptions about outcomes, judge bias) rather than engaging with the substantive issue: whether Floyd faced prime opponents like Bradley, who arguably represented one of the best challenges of his era. This type of argument works to deflect from the real conversation about the limitations of Floyd's resume against active, prime competition.
          1. Obsessive thinking patterns - When someone invests extensive time and emotional energy into hating an athlete they've never met, especially to the point of fabricating narratives, it suggests compulsive thought patterns that can be characteristic of obsessive disorders.
          2. Cognitive distortions - The willful misinterpretation of facts and twisting of reality to fit their negative narrative indicates:
            • Confirmation bias taken to an extreme degree
            • Black-and-white thinking
            • Catastrophizing (making everything the athlete does seem terrible)
          3. Displaced aggression or projection - Often, this level of hatred toward an athlete can be a manifestation of:
            • Personal feelings of inadequacy
            • Unresolved issues with success/failure
            • Deep-seated resentments about their own life circumstances

          The investment of significant time and emotional energy into maintaining this hatred, especially when it involves actively distorting reality, suggests this goes beyond normal sports rivalries or disagreements. This behavior pattern can be symptomatic of:
          • Personality disorder traits
          • Unresolved trauma or personal issues
          • Deep-seated insecurity
          • Possible depression or anxiety manifesting as fixation

          It's particularly concerning when someone consistently fabricates negative information, as this shows a break from reality-testing that healthy minds typically maintain, even when they dislike someone.

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          • BodyBagz
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            #235
            Originally posted by Haka

            This post distracts from the issue of a fighter’s resume in terms of facing prime opponents by focusing on subjective elements that are not directly relevant to assessing the overall quality of a boxer's career. Here’s why: 1. Argument based on assumption:
            • The statement that Mayweather "would never need 3 fights to settle the score" against Bradley or Maidana is speculative and doesn't engage with the question of whether Floyd was willing to face all prime challengers, especially those like Bradley. Focusing on hypothetical scenarios (such as what Mayweather "would" or "wouldn't" do) distracts from the objective fact that Floyd's resume includes opponents who were not at their primes when he fought them.
            2. Dismissal of Bradley’s Resume:
            • The claim that Bradley's resume is "lacking" is an oversimplification. Bradley’s prime was one of the most competitive in the division, and he faced a multitude of top-tier opponents. While his resume may not be perfect, dismissing it entirely ignores the quality of his fights against fighters like Pacquiao, Marquez, and others. This is a deflection from discussing whether Floyd actively avoided fights with Bradley in his prime and whether that omission impacts the overall quality of Floyd’s resume.
            3. Focus on close rounds or judging:
            • The argument that Maidana’s fight was "close" because of judge bias (scoring shoulder and back-of-head punches) is a diversion. It’s valid to discuss judging, but this does not address the core issue of Floyd’s reluctance to fight top opponents like Bradley, or take on fighters in their primes without catchweights. The fact that some of Floyd’s fights (like against Maidana or Cotto) were competitive but not universally regarded as his toughest challenges raises concerns about the depth of his post-retirement opposition.
            4. Factual Distraction:
            • By focusing on a few rounds or scoring disputes, the post distracts from the fact that there were legitimate prime opponents in the division during Floyd’s career that he either avoided or fought at a later stage, which weakens the argument for him being the greatest of his era.

            Conclusion:
            • The post is a diversionary tactic that focuses on subjective, emotional responses about individual fights (e.g., assumptions about outcomes, judge bias) rather than engaging with the substantive issue: whether Floyd faced prime opponents like Bradley, who arguably represented one of the best challenges of his era. This type of argument works to deflect from the real conversation about the limitations of Floyd's resume against active, prime competition.
            Gift vs Pac
            Its usually an every fight occurrence where 3 judges will score the same fight differently.
            They have openly admitted to favoring certain styles over others.
            Since boxing is not a sport as we know sports to be, the scoring "system" is completely subjective.....except for KDs.

            Tim is nothing special.
            No one ever mentions him in a special kind of way or matches him with ATGs

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            • Roadblock
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              #236
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              Gift vs Pac
              Its usually an every fight occurrence where 3 judges will score the same fight differently.
              They have openly admitted to favoring certain styles over others.
              Since boxing is not a sport as we know sports to be, the scoring "system" is completely subjective.....except for KDs.

              Tim is nothing special.
              No one ever mentions him in a special kind of way or matches him with ATGs
              There is no talking rational sense to that idiot, the guy is low intelligence and there is no getting past that.

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              • Haka
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                #237
                Originally posted by BodyBagz

                Gift vs Pac
                Its usually an every fight occurrence where 3 judges will score the same fight differently.
                They have openly admitted to favoring certain styles over others.
                Since boxing is not a sport as we know sports to be, the scoring "system" is completely subjective.....except for KDs.

                Tim is nothing special.
                No one ever mentions him in a special kind of way or matches him with ATGs
                Yes but we are talking in terms of the best fighters among the list of:
                - Bradley, JMM, Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero, Berto

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                • Haka
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Roadblock

                  There is no talking rational sense to that idiot, the guy is low intelligence and there is no getting past that.
                  At this point you have not responded to post #211 so I have to assume you agree with post #211.

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                  • Roadblock
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by Haka

                    Yes but we are talking in terms of the best fighters among the list of:
                    - Bradley, JMM, Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero, Berto
                    They all better than Algeri Rios Horn and Clottey.

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                    • Haka
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      They all better than Algeri Rios Horn and Clottey.
                      More deflection.

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