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At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
Like a soap bubble, I have punctured your theory. And now you try to bury it by spamming all nonsense.
Anyway as Ive said many times, I feel sorry for haters because something is wrong with the entire process of hating somebody that has nothing at all to do with them, it is such shallow way of thinking and the sad part is you are not aware of it, so here is the processes that can help you become normal I wish you the best of luck as you are against a monster inside you that is hiding.
In most cases, people exhibiting these deep-seated patterns of obsessive hatred are unlikely to self-correct without professional help, primarily because:- Limited self-awareness These individuals often lack insight into how their internal traumas and insecurities are driving their behavior. The hatred feels justified to them - they typically believe they're simply "seeing the truth" about the athlete while everyone else is blind to it.
- Defense mechanisms Their mind has built elaborate defense mechanisms that:
- Protect them from confronting their own pain
- Rationalize their obsessive behavior
- Turn their internal struggles into external battles
To begin healing, they would need to:
First steps:- Recognize that their level of investment in hating a stranger isn't normal or healthy
- Acknowledge that their hatred might be masking deeper personal issues
- Be willing to explore what triggers their intense reactions
Professional intervention would likely be necessary because:- The patterns are usually too deeply entrenched for self-correction
- They need objective guidance to identify cognitive distortions
- Underlying trauma requires professional processing techniques
- They may need tools to develop healthier coping mechanisms
The challenge is that most people caught in these patterns won't seek help unless:- Someone close to them helps them see the problem
- Their behavior starts seriously impacting their life
- They reach a personal crisis that forces self-reflection
Often, the first step toward healing comes when someone helps them see how much time and energy they're losing to this hatred, rather than directly challenging their views about the athlete.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
There is nothing to bury without the question you fed it to get it, that will go over your head because it takes another layer of thinking to understand how that works.
Anyway as Ive said many times, I feel sorry for haters because something is wrong with the entire process of hating somebody that has nothing at all to do with them, it is such shallow way of thinking and the sad part is you are not aware of it, so here is the processes that can help you become normal I wish you the best of luck as you are against a monster inside you that is hiding.
In most cases, people exhibiting these deep-seated patterns of obsessive hatred are unlikely to self-correct without professional help, primarily because:- Limited self-awareness These individuals often lack insight into how their internal traumas and insecurities are driving their behavior. The hatred feels justified to them - they typically believe they're simply "seeing the truth" about the athlete while everyone else is blind to it.
- Defense mechanisms Their mind has built elaborate defense mechanisms that:
- Protect them from confronting their own pain
- Rationalize their obsessive behavior
- Turn their internal struggles into external battles
To begin healing, they would need to:
First steps:- Recognize that their level of investment in hating a stranger isn't normal or healthy
- Acknowledge that their hatred might be masking deeper personal issues
- Be willing to explore what triggers their intense reactions
Professional intervention would likely be necessary because:- The patterns are usually too deeply entrenched for self-correction
- They need objective guidance to identify cognitive distortions
- Underlying trauma requires professional processing techniques
- They may need tools to develop healthier coping mechanisms
The challenge is that most people caught in these patterns won't seek help unless:- Someone close to them helps them see the problem
- Their behavior starts seriously impacting their life
- They reach a personal crisis that forces self-reflection
Often, the first step toward healing comes when someone helps them see how much time and energy they're losing to this hatred, rather than directly challenging their views about the athlete.
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
The conclusion is in post 211# if you do not respond to it I assume you agree with post #211.
Where is the question you put into the AI to illicit the response , thats a fair ask so come on where is it.
AI is only as good as the questions you ask it, you could be in the presence of the wisest man on earth and you would walk no wiser than you came because you would not know what to ask.
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
The conclusion is in post 211# if you do not respond to it I assume you agree with post #211.
Let me break down why this analysis of Floyd Mayweather's resume contains several flawed premises and inaccurate conclusions:- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
- Canelo Alvarez (42-0 at the time)
- Ricky Hatton (43-0 at the time)
- Diego Corrales (33-0 at their fight)
- Zab Judah (who was considered the #1 welterweight when they fought)
- The classification of fighters like Maidana and Guerrero as "not elite-level threats" is historically inaccurate:
- Maidana was coming off a dominant win over Adrien Broner
- Guerrero was on a 15-fight win streak and had won titles in multiple divisions
- Both were considered legitimate threats at the time of their fights
- The analysis significantly understates the quality of Mayweather's victories over fighters like Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley:
- Cotto was still in his prime at 154 lbs when they fought, having just avenged his loss to Margarito
- Mosley, while older, was coming off a devastating knockout of Antonio Margarito
- The claim about Bradley's hypothetical placement contains circular reasoning:
- It assumes Bradley would be one of Floyd's best opponents without evidence
- It ignores that Bradley struggled against opponents that Mayweather dominated
- It doesn't account for stylistic matchups that might have made Bradley less competitive
- The "quality over quantity" argument is undermined by statistics:
- Mayweather fought 24 world champions
- He defeated 16 fighters who held multiple world titles
- His opponents had a combined record of 766-72-2 when he fought them
- The historical context is missing:
- Mayweather fought and beat the available top contenders in each era
- Many of the fights deemed "missing" from his resume (like Bradley) were complicated by promotional conflicts
- He consistently fought the highest-ranked available opponents
The analysis attempts to diminish Mayweather's accomplishments through selective interpretation rather than examining the full context of his career and era.
Last edited by Roadblock; 12-20-2024, 10:57 PM.
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- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
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First give a definition for prime
Definition of "Prime":
Performance Consistency: Maintaining an unbeaten streak in championship fights
Physical and Neurological Integrity: Showing sharpness in reflexes, speed, and decision-making, free from evident decline due to age or wear.
Contextual Relevance: Competing in fights of significance within their weight class, team dynamics, and preparation quality.
No catchweights: No fighter in any fight can be hindered by a weight clausule.
how high would Bradley rank on the resume of Floyd in terms of prime opponents
who is the best welterweight of 2010 in a head to head if only Bradley, JMM, Guerrero, Ortiz, Berto, Maidana were in it.
what is the logical conclusion of both questions
Why don't you ask your AI and post what it says. RoadblockLast edited by Haka; 12-20-2024, 11:11 PM.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Here you go for a full breakdown read it slowly so you can comprehend.
Let me break down why this analysis of Floyd Mayweather's resume contains several flawed premises and inaccurate conclusions:- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
- Canelo Alvarez (42-0 at the time)
- Ricky Hatton (43-0 at the time)
- Diego Corrales (33-0 at their fight)
- Zab Judah (who was considered the #1 welterweight when they fought)
- The classification of fighters like Maidana and Guerrero as "not elite-level threats" is historically inaccurate:
- Maidana was coming off a dominant win over Adrien Broner
- Guerrero was on a 15-fight win streak and had won titles in multiple divisions
- Both were considered legitimate threats at the time of their fights
- The analysis significantly understates the quality of Mayweather's victories over fighters like Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley:
- Cotto was still in his prime at 154 lbs when they fought, having just avenged his loss to Margarito
- Mosley, while older, was coming off a devastating knockout of Antonio Margarito
- The claim about Bradley's hypothetical placement contains circular reasoning:
- It assumes Bradley would be one of Floyd's best opponents without evidence
- It ignores that Bradley struggled against opponents that Mayweather dominated
- It doesn't account for stylistic matchups that might have made Bradley less competitive
- The "quality over quantity" argument is undermined by statistics:
- Mayweather fought 24 world champions
- He defeated 16 fighters who held multiple world titles
- His opponents had a combined record of 766-72-2 when he fought them
- The historical context is missing:
- Mayweather fought and beat the available top contenders in each era
- Many of the fights deemed "missing" from his resume (like Bradley) were complicated by promotional conflicts
- He consistently fought the highest-ranked available opponents
The analysis attempts to diminish Mayweather's accomplishments through selective interpretation rather than examining the full context of his career and era.
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- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
First give a definition for prime
Then ask the first question:
Second question is:
Then ask what is the logical conclusion of both questions and you end up at the answer at post #211.
Let me break down why this analysis of Floyd Mayweather's resume contains several flawed premises and inaccurate conclusions:- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
- Canelo Alvarez (42-0 at the time)
- Ricky Hatton (43-0 at the time)
- Diego Corrales (33-0 at their fight)
- Zab Judah (who was considered the #1 welterweight when they fought)
- The classification of fighters like Maidana and Guerrero as "not elite-level threats" is historically inaccurate:
- Maidana was coming off a dominant win over Adrien Broner
- Guerrero was on a 15-fight win streak and had won titles in multiple divisions
- Both were considered legitimate threats at the time of their fights
- The analysis significantly understates the quality of Mayweather's victories over fighters like Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley:
- Cotto was still in his prime at 154 lbs when they fought, having just avenged his loss to Margarito
- Mosley, while older, was coming off a devastating knockout of Antonio Margarito
- The claim about Bradley's hypothetical placement contains circular reasoning:
- It assumes Bradley would be one of Floyd's best opponents without evidence
- It ignores that Bradley struggled against opponents that Mayweather dominated
- It doesn't account for stylistic matchups that might have made Bradley less competitive
- The "quality over quantity" argument is undermined by statistics:
- Mayweather fought 24 world champions
- He defeated 16 fighters who held multiple world titles
- His opponents had a combined record of 766-72-2 when he fought them
- The historical context is missing:
- Mayweather fought and beat the available top contenders in each era
- Many of the fights deemed "missing" from his resume (like Bradley) were complicated by promotional conflicts
- He consistently fought the highest-ranked available opponents
The analysis attempts to diminish Mayweather's accomplishments through selective interpretation rather than examining the full context of his career and era.
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- The premise that Mayweather lacked elite prime opponents ignores that he faced multiple undefeated fighters and reigning champions at their peak, including:
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
You woudn't know if Bradley were to be less effective. Maybe Floyd wouldve been less effective. Nobody knows.
You are so obvious.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
The evidence suggests he would have got schooled, but you've got to have the rationale to be able to break down the evidence using logic, and you don't have that capacity, put up the question you used to the AI and I will show how you distorted things to justify your hate.
You are so obvious.
Definition of "Prime":
Performance Consistency: Maintaining an unbeaten streak in championship fights
Physical and Neurological Integrity: Showing sharpness in reflexes, speed, and decision-making, free from evident decline due to age or wear.
Contextual Relevance: Competing in fights of significance within their weight class, team dynamics, and preparation quality.
No catchweights: No fighter in any fight can be hindered by a weight clausule.
how high would Bradley rank on the resume of Floyd in terms of prime opponents
who is the best welterweight of 2010 in a head to head if only Bradley, JMM, Guerrero, Ortiz, Berto, Maidana were in it.
what is the logical conclusion of both questions as far as Floyd resume is concerned
Why don't you ask your little AI friend and post what it says. Roadblock
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